This was the worst trial I've ever heard of!

[planosteve]

just because the government or any institution tells us something doesn’t make it true. Or fully true. There may be much more to the story… and it certainly looks that way here.

For another, just because the people representing a defendant decide to admit guilt does not in itself necessarily mean that the defendant is guilty. Even if a defendant personally declares his or her guilt—which has not yet happened in this case—it does not necessarily prove culpability.

Why? Because defendants confess to all kinds of things for all kinds of reasons. Historically, we’ve seen loads of cases involving coerced confessions, false confessions based on pressure to protect a family or others, or on a calculated defense team strategy. One kind of confusion or another has revealed thousands of open-and-shut cases to be nothing of the sort. And many “confessed” criminals have later been cleared.

In this particular case, we’ve found dozens, scores, maybe even hundreds of things that don’t line up, don’t add up. Taken together, they suggest that the full or correct story is not coming out. Especially given the fact that the defendant has yet to speak publicly, even indirectly, to tell his own story of what happened and how he came to be involved in such a monstrous plot. Also telling is that he has essentially been muzzled.

Almost nothing we have been told about Dzhokhar Tsarnaev makes sense. Not his failing to act like a Jihadist before or after exploding the bombings, making no public statement for his cause, or seeking to be a martyr. Not his supposedly going to buy milk directly from the site of the bombings. Nor his returning moments later to the store, again ensuring he would be caught on the store’s camera, to return the milk. Nor his going back to his college dorm, working out with his friends, attending class and partying with classmates. Then just staying on in town until he and his brother were marked men. None of this is typical terrorist behavior.

The marathon bombing case has given the super-profitable homeland security complex another blank check, justified the government’s ever-increasing surveillance and control of the populace, and in myriad ways further eroded our diminishing freedom. There will be more eavesdropping, more cameras, more putting people in solitary confinement without cause; more justification for almost any action the state wishes to take. We may have just gotten a whiff of where things are headed when during the Boston manhunt the government took the extraordinary step of shutting down a major American city, ordering everyone to stay in their homes—without a peep of protest.

Investigative journalist Russ Baker's website is the best source of information of what really happened in Boston.

http://whowhatwhy.org/2015/04/07/why-we-fight-with-the-pen/

[ann jusko]

However, the camera that caught him wasn't a government camera. It was a store's camera across the street from where he left the bomb. It is the store's right to have cameras. It belongs to them. They freely gave permission for law enforcement to view and ultimately gave them the video. I'm sure store personnel where just as shaken as everyone else in Boston and wanted to help as much as they could. The main defense in this case was that he was brain-washed by his older brother. This is not the case that should be highlighted to argue the author's point.

[planosteve]

However, the camera that caught him wasn't a government camera. It was a store's camera across the street from where he left the bomb. It is the store's right to have cameras. It belongs to them. They freely gave permission for law enforcement to view and ultimately gave them the video. I'm sure store personnel where just as shaken as everyone else in Boston and wanted to help as much as they could. The main defense in this case was that he was brain-washed by his older brother. This is not the case that should be highlighted to argue the author's point.

We are told that each of the brother's had a pressure cooker packed full of shrapnel in their backpacks. But, the younger brother's backpack is barely half full. And it is just casually slung over one shoulder. It is certainly no pressure cooker bomb.

[ann jusko]

He had already set the bomb and was moving so he didn't get blown up. There were witnesses you know.

[ralph]

seems to me that the trial came to the correct conclusion , seems to me that there was evidence such as film and photos . Seems to me that the Chechen muslim bomber guy is guilty and has been found to be guilty !!

[planosteve]

I don't ever remember a trial that began with the lawyer for the defendent claiming he was guilty.
Any chance that we were going to learn what actually happened went right out the window. I expect
he was told to plead guilty, keep his mouth shut and he might live, otherwise he was a dead man walking.

[planosteve]

Here's the video of them carrying the pressure cooker "bombs". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jfqepKexZk
Does it look like either one is carrying a pressure cooker full of shrapnel weighing at least 50 lbs?

[John in Plano]

Its Bushs fault

[millergrovesue]

seems to me that the trial came to the correct conclusion , seems to me that there was evidence such as film and photos . Seems to me that the Chechen muslim bomber guy is guilty and has been found to be guilty !!

Exactly. And the guy should fry. He had no defense. He did it regardless of whatever control his brother supposedly had over him. Death penalty seems the best sentence for this guy.

[ralph]

yeah Sue , I pay no attention to the silly , his brother brainwashed him deal !!

[GFB]

I guess until the day a Jewish guy and his brother decide to set a bomb off at a major event..everything will be a lie or a conspiracy.

..and the Jews will definitely be guilty..no question.

[planosteve]

I guess until the day a Jewish guy and his brother decide to set a bomb off at a major event..everything will be a lie or a conspiracy.

..and the Jews will definitely be guilty..no question.

You mean like they did at the King David Hotel?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

[ann jusko]

Pressure cookers aren't the massive pots they used to be. You better go and see some of the modern ones, Plano! How long has it been since you've seen one? You're talking BS AGAIN!

[millergrovesue]

Pressure cookers aren't the massive pots they used to be. You better go and see some of the modern ones, Plano! How long has it been since you've seen one? You're talking BS AGAIN!

Yeah and even the old ones weren't all huge. We have a very old one that's only a couple of quarts. Smaller than a dutch oven.

[planosteve]

Pressure cookers aren't the massive pots they used to be. You better go and see some of the modern ones, Plano! How long has it been since you've seen one? You're talking BS AGAIN!

Yeah and even the old ones weren't all huge. We have a very old one that's only a couple of quarts. Smaller than a dutch oven.

They know it was a 6 liter pressure cooker, that's about 6.3 quarts. How much would one of those full of metal weigh? That may be academic because the video of the brothers walking with backpacks on was not real. It was a reenactment filmed in Pheonix AZ for a docu-drama.

[millergrovesue]

They know it was a 6 liter pressure cooker, that's about 6.3 quarts. How much would one of those full of metal weigh? That may be academic because the video of the brothers walking with backpacks on was not real. It was a reenactment filmed in Pheonix AZ for a docu-drama.

Really.............I do wish you would share some of what you're smoking with the rest of us................or maybe not.

[planosteve]

Really.............I do wish you would share some of what you're smoking with the rest of us................or maybe not.

I gave up smoking many years ago. Now I just read.

http://whowhatwhy.org/2015/03/03/fbis-smoking-gun-video-boston-marathon-bombing-doesnt-exist/