PPA and womens health

[Sangersteve]

So what do they do? Notice the careful use of "get access". I guess healthcare is defined by another service they do provide.

Planned Parenthood helps women nationwide get access to mammograms, as part of the range of health care Planned Parenthood health centers provide to nearly three million people a year.

There’s only one problem: Planned Parenthood does not manage a single licensed mammography facility in the U.S. Not one. Of the 8,735 licensed mammography facilities in America, Planned Parenthood operates exactly zero.

How do we know this? Because the U.S. Food and Drug Administration keeps a list of every licensed facility in the country. It updates this list weekly. And the most recent list of the more than 8,700 licensed mammogram facilities in the U.S. shows that not one is operated by Planned Parenthood. The following graphic from Alliance Defending Freedom shows just how little breast cancer screening is done by Planned Parenthood, especially compared to other non-abortion providers throughout the country:

[millergrovesue]

Lame, PPA. Women don't need anyone to arrange mammograms. All we have to do is walk into a mobile mammography bus or into a hospital and ask for a mammogram. Procedure may be different for men, I don't know.

[Castle Doctrine]

Lame, PPA. Women don't need anyone to arrange mammograms. All we have to do is walk into a mobile mammography bus or into a hospital and ask for a mammogram. Procedure may be different for men, I don't know.

Sue, I am posting a link for you to a full objective discussion of PPA and mammograms. It is a good article and sheds some light and perspective on all of PPAs services.

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/planned-parenthood-and-mammograms/

When you say women no longer need anyone to arrange mammograms for them you are undoubtedly correct...in regard to women like you and your peers (middle class, educated, accustom to thinking for themselves). But, you and your peers are not all women. I don't know but you may not even be representative of all women. The poor and uneducated are NOT like you and it is more than just economic. I have a hard time trying to imagine all the things these people have NO knowledge of that I take for granted as common knowledge. If you don't know that a thing called a mobile mammography Bus exists you may well not know you can walk into one and get something called a mammogram that you just heard about.

So, PPA serves these people primarily. The fill a spot between PCP and gynecologist for these women. They provide basic screenings and education then make such referrals as may be required for breast care, STD treatment and contraception. They also help with expenses for these women who often cannot afford the indicated care otherwise. Consider, does your PCP or gyno had an imaging lab in their office or do they refer you to appropriate radiological specialists and specialty facilities? I think I know the answer...my wife works for one of the Radiological Imaging Centers here and has been in the field for over 20 years in administration and scheduling.

I think we all fall into the habit of thinking everyone else is pretty much like us. I mean, of course, they aren't as smart as us but generally they know most of the same stuff we do even if they don't understand it as well as we do. At least, that is my experience. The problem with this is that it isn't true by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, it seems to me that just the opposite is more generally true.

Anyway, just sayin'...

[millergrovesue]

If there's one thing I learned from all the years I spent feeding the downtrodden, homeless, helpless, and lost it was never underestimate the ignorance of some people (and I don't mean ignorance in a negative way but rather the literal definition). You are right that many aren't sophisticated or educated enough to care for their own health. Heck, when I was a very young woman I went to Planned Parenthood for birth control because I couldn't afford to pay a doctor..........that was before Obamacare stepped in and made all of our lives a slide on ice.

[ann jusko]

And there are women's health facilities (that taxpapers money {billions} supports. There are no physicals given at PP. Women are educated in self-examinations.

Has anyone watched the 4th or is it the 5th video (I can't bear to watch anymore)? I have heard it discusses "harvesting" the entire fetus as a "line item". These people are EVIL. Was Merchant of WV the ONLY democrat that voted to defund PP?

Let's hear it for the compassionate, deeply concerned about the poor, liberals.

[Red Oak]

Has PP reached out to the Transgendered ?

[jellowrestling]

And there are women's health facilities (that taxpapers money {billions} supports. There are no physicals given at PP. Women are educated in self-examinations.

Has anyone watched the 4th or is it the 5th video (I can't bear to watch anymore)? I have heard it discusses "harvesting" the entire fetus as a "line item". These people are EVIL. Was Merchant of WV the ONLY democrat that voted to defund PP?

Let's hear it for the compassionate, deeply concerned about the poor, liberals.

You got it, Ann. EVIL.

[Cowman52]

Has PP reached out to the Transgendered ?

That's how they became transgendered, they reached a little farther than expected.

[planosteve]

Has anyone checked out the new revised PP BBQ Fetus Cookbook?

[jellowrestling]

Has anyone checked out the new revised PP BBQ Fetus Cookbook?

That's similar to something Greg Gutfeld said last week; (IIRC) he asked the PP apologists what will happen when someone decides that the fetuses are "nutrits" and taste good. Still just a blob of tissue?

[Mark]

I thought Obamacare was supposed to provide all of these women's health services for FREE.

Doesn't that make Planned Parenthood completely obsolete?

[jellowrestling]

I thought Obamacare was supposed to provide all of these women's health services for FREE.

Doesn't that make Planned Parenthood completely obsolete?

That's not the point.
The point is: "Racist!"
Wait....
I mean, "War on Women!"

[Castle Doctrine]

If there's one thing I learned from all the years I spent feeding the downtrodden, homeless, helpless, and lost it was never underestimate the ignorance of some people (and I don't mean ignorance in a negative way but rather the literal definition). You are right that many aren't sophisticated or educated enough to care for their own health. Heck, when I was a very young woman I went to Planned Parenthood for birth control because I couldn't afford to pay a doctor..........that was before Obamacare stepped in and made all of our lives a slide on ice.

I don't really know that the ACA made all our lives a "slide on ice". It isn't my understanding that the purpose was to do anything to ALL of us except make us buy health insurance and bring some standardization to policy terms and conditions. As I see it this was accomplished by imposing fairly limited regulation (some poorly written or conceive...men shouldn't be writing policy for women's health care) on an industry that had made trillions by avoiding any sort of regulation, some rather poor efforts to help the poor afford coverage and the damned mandate. I never like mandates. But, I don't have a horse in the race really and I did get used to the auto insurance mandate...finally.

This has left me somewhat puzzled by the hostility toward ACA and the absolutely ridiculous things that have been said about it. Now, I ask you this in all seriousness, could you articulate exactly what objections you have to ACA? I would also be interested to know why there was no similar response in the late 80's when the INSURANCE industry seized control of the American medical system...to reduce their own costs (and hence their profits). Remember when we got HMOs, PPOs and networks that were going to revolutionize the health system and save everyone money (as well as ration their access to health care by having accountants decide what doctors would be allowed to do). Do you have any ideas about why THAT didn't cause the response ACA did? Other than the current toxic political atmosphere.

I'm really asking because I am curious. I figure you are the most apt to respond thoughtfully and honestly...hope I haven't annoyed you by asking.

[millergrovesue]

Nope, doesn't annoy me at all. Since we are on Medicare and were Tricare enrollees prior to that we don't really have tangible concerns. BUT when Obamacare first started enrollment I checked what it would have cost us for healthcare. The whole set up was typical of anything the gov. does namely confusing, inefficient, and outrageously expensive. Seems to me out monthly premiums were up in the thousands of dollars with deductible something like $8000. No way we could afford "affordable care". That has been the story with most everyone I've heard from. Working poor generally do not benefit from it but are forced to purchase something they can't pay for which further stresses their meager budgets. As far as I can tell the only ones who benefit are those with zero income other than what they get from welfare. To my mind Obamacare does little more than encourage sloth.

[Mark]

If there's one thing I learned from all the years I spent feeding the downtrodden, homeless, helpless, and lost it was never underestimate the ignorance of some people (and I don't mean ignorance in a negative way but rather the literal definition). You are right that many aren't sophisticated or educated enough to care for their own health. Heck, when I was a very young woman I went to Planned Parenthood for birth control because I couldn't afford to pay a doctor..........that was before Obamacare stepped in and made all of our lives a slide on ice.

I don't really know that the ACA made all our lives a "slide on ice". It isn't my understanding that the purpose was to do anything to ALL of us except make us buy health insurance and bring some standardization to policy terms and conditions. As I see it this was accomplished by imposing fairly limited regulation (some poorly written or conceive...men shouldn't be writing policy for women's health care) on an industry that had made trillions by avoiding any sort of regulation, some rather poor efforts to help the poor afford coverage and the damned mandate. I never like mandates. But, I don't have a horse in the race really and I did get used to the auto insurance mandate...finally.

This has left me somewhat puzzled by the hostility toward ACA and the absolutely ridiculous things that have been said about it. Now, I ask you this in all seriousness, could you articulate exactly what objections you have to ACA? I would also be interested to know why there was no similar response in the late 80's when the INSURANCE industry seized control of the American medical system...to reduce their own costs (and hence their profits). Remember when we got HMOs, PPOs and networks that were going to revolutionize the health system and save everyone money (as well as ration their access to health care by having accountants decide what doctors would be allowed to do). Do you have any ideas about why THAT didn't cause the response ACA did? Other than the current toxic political atmosphere.

I'm really asking because I am curious. I figure you are the most apt to respond thoughtfully and honestly...hope I haven't annoyed you by asking.

Isn't it the Left that's always crying about keeping the government away from our bodies? Obamacare puts the government in control of every American's body. Obamacare is all about control and crony capitalism.

[jellowrestling]

Isn't it the Left that's always crying about keeping the government away from our bodies? Obamacare puts the government in control of every American's body. Obamacare is all about control and crony capitalism.

Did I just hear a microphone drop?

[Castle Doctrine]

I fail to understand why you think the ACA is anything but fairly lenient regulation of the insurance industry (which needed it badly) and the mandate. I don't like mandates but, hey, when we don't do for ourselves...

the ACA was never intended to nor attempted to control American lives or health care. It was always about extending health care to those without it. It also sought to impose certain needed and long overdue regulations to the industry which just hates that sort of thing. It interferes with the making of obscene profits and refusing claims at THEIR discretion.

The Republican smear campaign has blown it all out of proportion and distorted its actual function.

I again ask, why didn't it bother the Right when the insurance companies seized control of the health care industry for the express purpose of reducing THEIR costs. You remember, when the insurance companies started deciding about treatment options and we got HMOs, PPOs and all sort of confusing networks...plus a similar increase in costs.

I realize unthinking and unsupported hatred and lies about ACA is part of the Conservative PC fine print. It is just that the rhetoric has gotten so far from the truth...well, but what hasn't on the Right. Elizabeth Warren was right...they think it is the 50s...the 1850s. You don't like ACA, fine. But, if you expect to be taken seriously, mindless tirades like that aren't going to get it done...any more than claiming anyone disagreeing with the CPC agenda is evil or stupid. It is just dumb.

[Sangersteve]

The ACA is a monster and all of the pitfalls have yet to be discovered. First and foremost is the fact that the federal government is forcing all citizens to purchase a product, whether they want that product or not.

The SCOTUS had to use pretzel logic to accept it in the first place and even more convulsions to uphold the subsidy provision. That in turn made the SCOTUS part of the lawmaking process, not the arbitrator of law.

I can assure you our experience with Obamacare is not atypical. My wife's policy was judged not good enough and a less effective policy,for her, was required. Her doctor of twenty years does not accept the new policy, so 20 years of records and a familiarity were flushed,and now she has to start over. Her sin for having to change to an ACA approved policy, no birth control provision in the old coverage. Now anyone with a tiny slice of a brain could look at her medical history and realize that having had a hysterectomy might preclude her from needing birth control, unfortunately the left never looks at anything with an eye to sanity.

The ACA was never intended to fix anything, it was and is just another way for the left to exert control of the citizens of this country.

[jellowrestling]

The ACA is a monster and all of the pitfalls have yet to be discovered. First and foremost is the fact that the federal government is forcing all citizens to purchase a product, whether they want that product or not.

The SCOTUS had to use pretzel logic to accept it in the first place and even more convulsions to uphold the subsidy provision. That in turn made the SCOTUS part of the lawmaking process, not the arbitrator of law.

I can assure you our experience with Obamacare is not atypical. My wife's policy was judged not good enough and a less effective policy,for her, was required. Her doctor of twenty years does not accept the new policy, so 20 years of records and a familiarity were flushed,and now she has to start over. Her sin for having to change to an ACA approved policy, no birth control provision in the old coverage. Now anyone with a tiny slice of a brain could look at her medical history and realize that having had a hysterectomy might preclude her from needing birth control, unfortunately the left never looks at anything with an eye to sanity.

The ACA was never intended to fix anything, it was and is just another way for the left to exert control of the citizens of this country.

Under the ACA, you're covered if you get pregnant, too.