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I suppose there is something unsettling about watching someone prancing around the barracks in a matching bra and jockstrap.

planosteve wrote:I suppose there is something unsettling about watching someone prancing around the barracks in a matching bra and jockstrap.

---------------------------------- , i can just imagine the coming storm of legalities . And some approve of 'mrobama' policies and social engineering especially in the military

and this affects how many people?

kent wrote:and this affects how many people?

-------------------------------------------------------------- Don't know Kent but to me its a change in AMERICAN Military Culture which i always understood was simply to BREAK THINGS and to KILL the enemy . That being said , i think that the aricle mention that there are a few thousand , no idea how they get the numbers . Also one of the problems is the cost of the transgender surgery from what i hear Kent .

kent wrote:and this affects how many people?

Ultimately it affects everybody. Commanders are reluctant to discipline or give bad performance evaluations to special groups because they don't want to risk negative backlash that would affect their own careers. If you make a negative remark about someone who happens to be a member of a special group, you will have to defend yourself against charges of prejudice. So you refrain from any negative remarks, even though they may have nothing to do with the member's sexual identity. The result of that is resentment from others in the command, which affects overall morale.

So yes, it ultimately affects everybody.

BigTex wrote:

kent wrote:and this affects how many people?

Ultimately it affects everybody. Commanders are reluctant to discipline or give bad performance evaluations to special groups because they don't want to risk negative backlash that would affect their own careers. If you make a negative remark about someone who happens to be a member of a special group, you will have to defend yourself against charges of prejudice. So you refrain from any negative remarks, even though they may have nothing to do with the member's sexual identity. The result of that is resentment from others in the command, which affects overall morale.

So yes, it ultimately affects everybody.

--------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for the info , makes perfect sense to me B.T..

BigTex wrote:

kent wrote:and this affects how many people?

Ultimately it affects everybody. Commanders are reluctant to discipline or give bad performance evaluations to special groups because they don't want to risk negative backlash that would affect their own careers. If you make a negative remark about someone who happens to be a member of a special group, you will have to defend yourself against charges of prejudice. So you refrain from any negative remarks, even though they may have nothing to do with the member's sexual identity. The result of that is resentment from others in the command, which affects overall morale.

So yes, it ultimately affects everybody.

But if you don't let them in the first place....

How about instead of no transgenders, its "start your hitch as a man, finish as a man....

Our military personnel have a very important and very dangerous job to do. There isn't any room for mentally unstable people in their midst...

And make no mistake, ALL trannies are mentally unstable.

uh oh , 'hollyweird' is annoyed --- http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/ ... community/ ---

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... surgeries/

wrong

planosteve wrote:I suppose there is something unsettling about watching someone prancing around the barracks in a matching bra and jockstrap.

Give a brother a warning!

On the same day her father announced a ban on transgender people from serving in the U.S. military, Ivanka Trump is taking heat for a tweet sent more than a month ago expressing her support for the LGBTQ community.
In June, Ivanka Trump tweeted, "I am proud to support my LGBTQ friends and the LGBTQ Americans who have made immense contributions to our society and economy."

planosteve wrote:On the same day her father announced a ban on transgender people from serving in the U.S. military, Ivanka Trump is taking heat for a tweet sent more than a month ago expressing her support for the LGBTQ community.
In June, Ivanka Trump tweeted, "I am proud to support my LGBTQ friends and the LGBTQ Americans who have made immense contributions to our society and economy."

------------------------------------------------------ nothing wrong with that kind of thinking or 'tweeting' by Ivanka . I mostly think similar about deviant groups of people . Heck , if they are peaceful and just going about their business of everyday life they should just be left alone to do as they like . But thats no reason to mess up the USA Military with unsuitable people as 'mrobama' had planned . I think that President Trump probably thinks similar to Ivanka but thats no reason for unsuitable people to be allowed in the military PSteve .

so, y'all would have thrown private Dawes in prison?

I get why he did it, he listened to his military leaders. I get that it is a pain to deal with. My response... SUCK IT UP! You're in a position of leading individuals into situations of life and death, if you aren't strong enough to deal with this, maybe you shouldn't be sitting at you desks and telling people they need to go into combat.

more info , short article that states that there are ABOUT 2500 trannies in the USA Military . Another number is that there are 1.3 million total in USA Military . --- https://townhall.com/columnists/toddsta ... s-n2360274 ---

It's not about whether transgenders are fit for service. It's about how the introduction of special groups changes the culture of a military unit.

and i think this communication from a wounded soldier explains how anything outside the NORM upsets the Military Culture . --- http://www.redstate.com/kiradavis/2017/ ... et-thread/ --- [REPEAT]