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McCain sinks the "skinny bill"

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:21 am
by planosteve
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) killed the last-resort Senate Republican healthcare bill in a surprise vote early Friday morning, voting against a pared-down proposal that GOP leaders released only hours earlier.

Voting shortly after midnight, McCain - who returned to the Senate on Tuesday after undergoing emergency surgery related to brain cancer - joined GOP Sens. Susan Collins (Maine) and Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) in opposing the measure that would have repealed key parts of ObamaCare.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ ... spartandhp

Re: McCain sinks the "skinny bill"

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:57 am
by Mark
Like I said before, eff John McCain.

Re: McCain sinks the "skinny bill"

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:59 am
by rusty
Good. As you know, I'm not a huge fan of O-care, but the Rs are the reason it's as screwed up as it is now.

Re: McCain sinks the "skinny bill"

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:24 am
by GFB
Yeah but he was a POW 50 years ago..so we're supposed to ignore that he's been a complete POS loser ever since.

Re: McCain sinks the "skinny bill"

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:30 am
by BigTex
GFB wrote:Yeah but he was a POW 50 years ago..so we're supposed to ignore that he's been a complete POS loser ever since.


I prefer to think that his miserable performance as a Republican senator does not diminish the respect he deserves for the punishment he endured as a POW.

But that's just me.

Re: McCain sinks the "skinny bill"

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:37 am
by GFB
BigTex wrote:
GFB wrote:Yeah but he was a POW 50 years ago..so we're supposed to ignore that he's been a complete POS loser ever since.


I prefer to think that his miserable performance as a Republican senator does not diminish the respect he deserves for the punishment he endured as a POW.

But that's just me.


Yes..it's just like Congressman John Lewis.

We're supposed to love him, too..no matter how big a racist or America hater he is, because he got beat up by some cops in Selma Alabama 50 years ago.

A POS is a POS at my house.

Re: McCain sinks the "skinny bill"

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:38 am
by ralph
f--- mkcain , his vote is not a surprise to anyone .

Re: McCain sinks the "skinny bill"

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:59 am
by BigTex
GFB wrote:
BigTex wrote:
GFB wrote:Yeah but he was a POW 50 years ago..so we're supposed to ignore that he's been a complete POS loser ever since.


I prefer to think that his miserable performance as a Republican senator does not diminish the respect he deserves for the punishment he endured as a POW.

But that's just me.


Yes..it's just like Congressman John Lewis.

We're supposed to love him, too..no matter how big a racist or America hater he is, because he got beat up by some cops in Selma Alabama 50 years ago.

A POS is a POS at my house.


I don't care what you think about McCain as a senator, but his POW status hits close to home for me. Comparing that POW John McCain is as ludicrous a statement as I have seen here.

POW John McCain is a POS?

An idiot is an idiot at my house. Time to put you back on ignore.

Re: McCain sinks the "skinny bill"

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:12 am
by LibraryLady2
I read some news report that said McCain surprised the Senate with his vote.

If anyone was surprised, that person did not listen to McCain's speech on Monday.
He very emphatically said he would not vote for what was on the table then--and this "skinny" was going to eliminate more from health care--so I knew if McCain kept his word, he would vote no.

Mitch McConnell should read up on LBJ's method of running the Senate. NEVER call for a vote unless you know how every one will vote and know you will succeed. That builds the myth that you control everyone's vote. Pretty soon others believe it. Reality is just that you don't create a situation in which you look like you are not in control.

Re: McCain sinks the "skinny bill"

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:18 am
by GFB
BigTex wrote:
GFB wrote:
BigTex wrote:
I prefer to think that his miserable performance as a Republican senator does not diminish the respect he deserves for the punishment he endured as a POW.

But that's just me.


Yes..it's just like Congressman John Lewis.

We're supposed to love him, too..no matter how big a racist or America hater he is, because he got beat up by some cops in Selma Alabama 50 years ago.

A POS is a POS at my house.


I don't care what you think about McCain as a senator, but his POW status hits close to home for me. Comparing that POW John McCain is as ludicrous a statement as I have seen here.

POW John McCain is a POS?

An idiot is an idiot at my house. Time to put you back on ignore.


He's not a POW..he was a POW 50 years ago.

Re: McCain sinks the "skinny bill"

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:42 am
by BigTex
LibraryLady2 wrote:I read some news report that said McCain surprised the Senate with his vote.

If anyone was surprised, that person did not listen to McCain's speech on Monday.
He very emphatically said he would not vote for what was on the table then--and this "skinny" was going to eliminate more from health care--so I knew if McCain kept his word, he would vote no.

Mitch McConnell should read up on LBJ's method of running the Senate. NEVER call for a vote unless you know how every one will vote and know you will succeed. That builds the myth that you control everyone's vote. Pretty soon others believe it. Reality is just that you don't create a situation in which you look like you are not in control.


Trump's buttering up of McCain before the vote was pretty transparent. But that's what politicians do.

Re: McCain sinks the "skinny bill"

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:38 am
by Mark
LibraryLady2 wrote:I read some news report that said McCain surprised the Senate with his vote.

If anyone was surprised, that person did not listen to McCain's speech on Monday.
He very emphatically said he would not vote for what was on the table then--and this "skinny" was going to eliminate more from health care--so I knew if McCain kept his word, he would vote no.

Mitch McConnell should read up on LBJ's method of running the Senate. NEVER call for a vote unless you know how every one will vote and know you will succeed. That builds the myth that you control everyone's vote. Pretty soon others believe it. Reality is just that you don't create a situation in which you look like you are not in control.



What about McCain's promise to his constituents to repeal Obamacare?

Re: McCain sinks the "skinny bill"

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:33 am
by GFB
Mark wrote:
LibraryLady2 wrote:I read some news report that said McCain surprised the Senate with his vote.

If anyone was surprised, that person did not listen to McCain's speech on Monday.
He very emphatically said he would not vote for what was on the table then--and this "skinny" was going to eliminate more from health care--so I knew if McCain kept his word, he would vote no.

Mitch McConnell should read up on LBJ's method of running the Senate. NEVER call for a vote unless you know how every one will vote and know you will succeed. That builds the myth that you control everyone's vote. Pretty soon others believe it. Reality is just that you don't create a situation in which you look like you are not in control.



What about McCain's promise to his constituents to repeal Obamacare?


POS

Re: McCain sinks the "skinny bill"

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:49 pm
by kent
Mark wrote:
LibraryLady2 wrote:I read some news report that said McCain surprised the Senate with his vote.

If anyone was surprised, that person did not listen to McCain's speech on Monday.
He very emphatically said he would not vote for what was on the table then--and this "skinny" was going to eliminate more from health care--so I knew if McCain kept his word, he would vote no.

Mitch McConnell should read up on LBJ's method of running the Senate. NEVER call for a vote unless you know how every one will vote and know you will succeed. That builds the myth that you control everyone's vote. Pretty soon others believe it. Reality is just that you don't create a situation in which you look like you are not in control.



What about McCain's promise to his constituents to repeal Obamacare?


that was to get elected. As a politician, he's a POS

As for the republicans being responsible for the POS legislation that Obamacare is.... that is totally laughable!! Not a single republican voted for this crap, in fact, they weren't even allowed to read it before it came to a vote! God I love revisionist history - NOT

Re: McCain sinks the "skinny bill"

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:12 pm
by grouchy
LibraryLady2 wrote:I read some news report that said McCain surprised the Senate with his vote.

If anyone was surprised, that person did not listen to McCain's speech on Monday.
He very emphatically said he would not vote for what was on the table then--and this "skinny" was going to eliminate more from health care--so I knew if McCain kept his word, he would vote no.

Mitch McConnell should read up on LBJ's method of running the Senate. NEVER call for a vote unless you know how every one will vote and know you will succeed. That builds the myth that you control everyone's vote. Pretty soon others believe it. Reality is just that you don't create a situation in which you look like you are not in control.

Amen

Re: McCain sinks the "skinny bill"

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:29 pm
by mayhem
ralph wrote:f--- mkcain , his vote is not a surprise to anyone .


Rolf ... I think his vote w a great surprise to many. McCconnell was practically waitin' at the gate to help him with his lugage.

You might wanna listen to news not made by Mattel.

Re: McCain sinks the "skinny bill"

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:41 pm
by Mark
kent wrote:
Mark wrote:
LibraryLady2 wrote:I read some news report that said McCain surprised the Senate with his vote.

If anyone was surprised, that person did not listen to McCain's speech on Monday.
He very emphatically said he would not vote for what was on the table then--and this "skinny" was going to eliminate more from health care--so I knew if McCain kept his word, he would vote no.

Mitch McConnell should read up on LBJ's method of running the Senate. NEVER call for a vote unless you know how every one will vote and know you will succeed. That builds the myth that you control everyone's vote. Pretty soon others believe it. Reality is just that you don't create a situation in which you look like you are not in control.



What about McCain's promise to his constituents to repeal Obamacare?


that was to get elected. As a politician, he's a POS

As for the republicans being responsible for the POS legislation that Obamacare is.... that is totally laughable!! Not a single republican voted for this crap, in fact, they weren't even allowed to read it before it came to a vote! God I love revisionist history - NOT



Republicans were also not allowed to offer amendments to Obamacare. They were completely shut out of the process.

Re: McCain sinks the "skinny bill"

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:55 pm
by mayhem
mayhem wrote:
ralph wrote:f--- mkcain , his vote is not a surprise to anyone .


Rolf ... I think his vote was a
ralph wrote: Quote ralph

Post by ralph » Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:38 am
a great surprise to many. McCconnell was practically waitin' at the gate to help him with his lugage.

You might wanna listen to news not made by Mattel.

Re: McCain sinks the "skinny bill"

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:26 pm
by rusty
Mark wrote:
kent wrote:
Mark wrote:

What about McCain's promise to his constituents to repeal Obamacare?


that was to get elected. As a politician, he's a POS

As for the republicans being responsible for the POS legislation that Obamacare is.... that is totally laughable!! Not a single republican voted for this crap, in fact, they weren't even allowed to read it before it came to a vote! God I love revisionist history - NOT



Republicans were also not allowed to offer amendments to Obamacare. They were completely shut out of the process.


Incorrect.

Re: McCain sinks the "skinny bill"

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:38 pm
by rusty
kent wrote:
Mark wrote:
LibraryLady2 wrote:I read some news report that said McCain surprised the Senate with his vote.

If anyone was surprised, that person did not listen to McCain's speech on Monday.
He very emphatically said he would not vote for what was on the table then--and this "skinny" was going to eliminate more from health care--so I knew if McCain kept his word, he would vote no.

Mitch McConnell should read up on LBJ's method of running the Senate. NEVER call for a vote unless you know how every one will vote and know you will succeed. That builds the myth that you control everyone's vote. Pretty soon others believe it. Reality is just that you don't create a situation in which you look like you are not in control.



What about McCain's promise to his constituents to repeal Obamacare?


that was to get elected. As a politician, he's a POS

As for the republicans being responsible for the POS legislation that Obamacare is.... that is totally laughable!! Not a single republican voted for this crap, in fact, they weren't even allowed to read it before it came to a vote! God I love revisionist history - NOT


It's only laughable if you believe the Republican spin. If they didn't read the bill it was because they didn't want to. Aside from that, the compromise was crafted by a bipartisan committee, it was during these committee meetings that Democrats (foolishly) allowed the Republicans to do 3 major things that basically sabotaged the Health Care Act before it even got off the ground. 1. Refuse to consider a sing;e-payer system. 2. Refuse to consider the public option. 3. Undermine the risk-corridor provision.
These are just 3 that would have made premiums more affordable and keep insurers in the system to compete. That's why I see the Rs are responsible for the major problems. I say that because it is true.
I'm sure all of that stuff is in the Congressional record if anyone cares to look. But the politicians know that most people don't care to look.