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Kiev Fakes out John Kerry and the NYT

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:29 am
by planosteve
Today, Mish debunked one of the main pieces of video “evidence” claimed by the mainstream media to prove that Russia was behind the shootdown of the Malaysian plane over Ukraine:

Jacob Dreizin, a US citizen who speaks Russian and reads Ukrainian provided this update three hours ago.

Hello Mish,

On Friday, the Daily Mail, one of the major UK tabloids carried photos and video of what was alleged to be a rebel “Buk” launcher heading back to Russia. The article carried a claim from some Ukrainian source that the launcher was missing several missiles after having shot them at the Malaysian 777. The article was prominently linked to the Drudge Report, and so was probably viewed by several million people.

Today, this meme made it into Uncle Sam’s official narrative, as per the following New York Times excerpt:

On the CBS program “Face the Nation,” Mr. Kerry referred to a video that the Ukrainians have made public showing an SA-11 unit heading back to Russia after the downing of the plane with “a missing missile or so.”

The video referenced by the New York Times was, in fact, posted on the Facebook account of the Ukrainian Interior Minister. The allegation was that the launcher was crossing the border with Russia.

However, going by the billboard and other features of the scenery, Russian bloggers and news sources claim to have identified the road in the video as having been taken in or near the town of Krasnoarmeisk (“Krasnoarmiysk” in Ukrainian), which has been under Kiev’s control since May.

In fact, the billboard is supposedly advertising a Krasnoarmeisk car dealership. Also, one of the structures in the background is said to be a construction materials store on Gorkii Street, Krasnoarmeisk.

Please note that this town is (very roughly) 120 kilometers from the Russian border and 80 kilometers from where the Malaysian 777 went down. And again, it has been under Kiev’s control since May.

At least one other clip of the “Russian Buk” that has been made available also suggests that the Ukrainians are showing their own equipment. I’m still working on researching that one for you.

Jacob
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/

Re: Kiev Fakes out John Kerry and the NYT

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:39 am
by GFB
Operating that BUK missile system takes months of training.

If Putin didn't order his own troops to shoot down the plane, he had his own troops teach the "rebels" how to shoot down a plane.

Either way, Putin and the Russians own this thing.

Re: Kiev Fakes out John Kerry and the NYT

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:43 am
by planosteve
GFB wrote:Operating that BUK missile system takes months of training.

If Putin didn't order his own troops to shoot down the plane, he had his own troops teach the "rebels" how to shoot down a plane.

Either way, Putin and the Russians own this thing.
Let me give you a hint. It wasn't shot down by a ground to air missile.

Re: Kiev Fakes out John Kerry and the NYT

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:51 am
by scarlett~nc
planosteve wrote:
GFB wrote:Operating that BUK missile system takes months of training.

If Putin didn't order his own troops to shoot down the plane, he had his own troops teach the "rebels" how to shoot down a plane.

Either way, Putin and the Russians own this thing.
Let me give you a hint. It wasn't shot down by a ground to air missile.


I suppose George W. took it down :o

Re: Kiev Fakes out John Kerry and the NYT

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:04 am
by GFB
planosteve wrote:
GFB wrote:Operating that BUK missile system takes months of training.

If Putin didn't order his own troops to shoot down the plane, he had his own troops teach the "rebels" how to shoot down a plane.

Either way, Putin and the Russians own this thing.
Let me give you a hint. It wasn't shot down by a ground to air missile.


Of course..and as usual..better help us out and give us the REAL deal.

Re: Kiev Fakes out John Kerry and the NYT

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:10 am
by planosteve

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Of course..and as usual..better help us out and give us the REAL deal.


The evidence is that the debris field is very large, almost 10 miles long. That would not be so if the plane was hit by a ground to air missile. The way the missile works is to home in on radio frequencies emitted by the engines. The missile doesn't hit the plane. Instead a proximity switch activates an explosive charge which sends 70 lbs of stainless steel bearings into the engine which destroys it. The plane then crashes but in one piece with a very small debris field. So, the evidence supports the theory of a bomb aboard the plane that blew it apart or possibly an air to air missile. There was a Kiev regime fighter following the Malayian flight shortly before it was destroyed.

Re: Kiev Fakes out John Kerry and the NYT

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:23 am
by BigTex
Where's my trophy?


BigTex wrote:Controlled explosion on the airliner.


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Re: Kiev Fakes out John Kerry and the NYT

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:42 am
by GFB
BigTex wrote:Where's my trophy?


BigTex wrote:Controlled explosion on the airliner.


viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1258


You've won the annual.."Lunch with Steve" award.

Where are you going to take him?

Re: Kiev Fakes out John Kerry and the NYT

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:45 am
by BigTex
Diego Garcia. So we can see Malaysian Flight 370.

Re: Kiev Fakes out John Kerry and the NYT

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:05 am
by planosteve
BigTex wrote:Diego Garcia. So we can see Malaysian Flight 370.
I think you were wrong about Cheney though. I don't think he has the heart for it anymore.