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rusty wrote:Why would he backpedal? He still thinks his dwindling group of minions are significant. He's simply pandering to his base. What else does he have?

GFB wrote:

rusty wrote:Why would he backpedal? He still thinks his dwindling group of minions are significant. He's simply pandering to his base. What else does he have?

Backpedaling is what politicians do, when some heat is put on them..especially when slime balls like this call him a racist.

The media and the rest of the left has never had anyone like Trump to deal with. Whatever crap they throw at him..makes him stronger.

planosteve wrote:It doesn't make him look any better with the rest of the world.

planosteve wrote: He had to beg Iran to let him bomb something. They turned him down,

GFB wrote:

planosteve wrote: He had to beg Iran to let him bomb something. They turned him down,

Nice rambling nonsense

planosteve wrote:

GFB wrote:

planosteve wrote: He had to beg Iran to let him bomb something. They turned him down,

Nice rambling nonsense

So you thought that 45 was really going to bomb Iran and set the Mideast on fire and changed his mind 10 minutes before because it might kill 150 people?

GFB wrote:And he’s still slapping around these despicable America haters this morning!

GFB wrote:

planosteve wrote:

GFB wrote:
Nice rambling nonsense

So you thought that 45 was really going to bomb Iran and set the Mideast on fire and changed his mind 10 minutes before because it might kill 150 people?

No, he changed his mind when he realized what a war with Iran would do to world markets and his re-election chances. All bets are off after next November.

So you thought he begged Iran to allow him to bomb them?

That’s a new low of dumbness.

According to well-informed sources, Iran rejected a proposal by US intelligence – made via a third party – that Trump be allowed to bomb one, two or three clear objectives, to be chosen by Iran, so that both countries could appear to come out as winners and Trump could save face. Iran categorically rejected the offer and sent its reply: even an attack against an empty sandy beach in Iran would trigger a missile launch against US objectives in the Gulf.

planosteve wrote:

GFB wrote:

planosteve wrote:So you thought that 45 was really going to bomb Iran and set the Mideast on fire and changed his mind 10 minutes before because it might kill 150 people?

No, he changed his mind when he realized what a war with Iran would do to world markets and his re-election chances. All bets are off after next November.

So you thought he begged Iran to allow him to bomb them?

That’s a new low of dumbness.

And he even asked "Pretty Please". But, don't let it disturb you. There are rational heads in Iran.

According to well-informed sources, Iran rejected a proposal by US intelligence – made via a third party – that Trump be allowed to bomb one, two or three clear objectives, to be chosen by Iran, so that both countries could appear to come out as winners and Trump could save face. Iran categorically rejected the offer and sent its reply: even an attack against an empty sandy beach in Iran would trigger a missile launch against US objectives in the Gulf.

https://ejmagnier.com/2019/06/21/iran-a ... the-abyss/

planosteve wrote:OK, try this one.
https://www.greanvillepost.com/2019/07/ ... o-bomb-it/
If you need more just say "please sir, may I have another''.

The Greanville Post is a Left leaning news and opinion website that promotes Marxism and anti-corporate information. According to their about page they are a “counter disinformation site; an instrument created to resist imperialism in the infowar sphere; seeking to spotlight the outrageous but increasingly common intersection of induced stupidity, high-handed political fraudulence and domestic and international criminality which characterize life in the American Empire in the early part of the 21st century.”

They further state “We publish many types of anti-imperialist analysis, including a substantive amount of materials originating with Marxian sources. This is only logical, considering we operate as independent leftists with a strong Marxist foundation ourselves. We do not however endorse any faction or tendency, including Trotskyism.”

...Overall, we rate The Greanville Post a strongly left biased source that occasionally publishes conspiracy and pseudoscience information in connection with Governments and Corporations.

jellowrestling wrote:

planosteve wrote:OK, try this one.
https://www.greanvillepost.com/2019/07/ ... o-bomb-it/
If you need more just say "please sir, may I have another''.

The Greanville Post is a Left leaning news and opinion website that promotes Marxism and anti-corporate information. According to their about page they are a “counter disinformation site; an instrument created to resist imperialism in the infowar sphere; seeking to spotlight the outrageous but increasingly common intersection of induced stupidity, high-handed political fraudulence and domestic and international criminality which characterize life in the American Empire in the early part of the 21st century.”
They further state “We publish many types of anti-imperialist analysis, including a substantive amount of materials originating with Marxian sources. This is only logical, considering we operate as independent leftists with a strong Marxist foundation ourselves. We do not however endorse any faction or tendency, including Trotskyism.”

...Overall, we rate The Greanville Post a strongly left biased source that occasionally publishes conspiracy and pseudoscience information in connection with Governments and Corporations.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-grea ... as-rating/

GFB wrote:

planosteve wrote:

GFB wrote:
No, he changed his mind when he realized what a war with Iran would do to world markets and his re-election chances. All bets are off after next November.

So you thought he begged Iran to allow him to bomb them?

That’s a new low of dumbness.

And he even asked "Pretty Please". But, don't let it disturb you. There are rational heads in Iran.

According to well-informed sources, Iran rejected a proposal by US intelligence – made via a third party – that Trump be allowed to bomb one, two or three clear objectives, to be chosen by Iran, so that both countries could appear to come out as winners and Trump could save face. Iran categorically rejected the offer and sent its reply: even an attack against an empty sandy beach in Iran would trigger a missile launch against US objectives in the Gulf.

https://ejmagnier.com/2019/06/21/iran-a ... the-abyss/

You always believe the stupidest people on earth.

Retired Adm. William McRaven, a former Navy SEAL who led US Joint Special Operations Command from 2011 to 2014, said Thursday that he has serious doubts about President Donald Trump's claim that he called off retaliatory strikes on Iran at the last minute after the downing of a US drone in June.

"We were cocked & loaded to retaliate last night on 3 different sights (sic) when I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General ... 10 minutes before the strike I stopped it," Trump tweeted at the time.
McRaven, who oversaw the 2011 raid that killed Osama bin Laden, told reporters that he was ultimately happy with the President's decision not to carry out the strikes and agreed it would not have been a proportional response.

However, the retired admiral made it clear that he found it "hard to believe" Trump stopped the strike at the last minute upon learning that there would be casualties. Drawing on his experience in similar situations, McRaven said the casualty count is typically part of the detailed briefing given to the president and national security adviser when they first request military options.