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Trump was rolled by Turkey
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:19 pm
by planosteve
Exclusive: Official Who Heard Call Says Trump Got 'Rolled' By Turkey and 'Has No Spine'
Donald Trump got "rolled" by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, a National Security Council source with direct knowledge of the discussions told Newsweek.
In a scheduled phone call on Sunday afternoon between President Trump and President Erdogan, Trump said he would withdraw U.S. forces from northern Syria. The phone call was scheduled after Turkey announced it was planning to invade Syria, and hours after Erdogan reinforced his army units at the Syrian-Turkish border and issued his strongest threat to launch a military incursion, according to the National Security Council official to whom Newsweek spoke on condition of anonymity.
The U.S. withdrawal plays into the hands of the Islamic State group, Damascus and Moscow, and the announcement left Trump's own Defense Department "completely stunned," said Pentagon officials. Turkey, like the United States, wants regime change in Syria. Russia and Iran support the Assad regime.
"President Trump was definitely out-negotiated and only endorsed the troop withdraw to make it look like we are getting something—but we are not getting something," the National Security Council source told Newsweek. "The U.S. national security has entered a state of increased danger for decades to come because the president has no spine and that's the bottom line."
Newsweek granted the National Security Council official anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly. The source said it would not be surprising to see a Turkish incursion in the next 24 to 96 hours.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/exclusive-official-who-heard-call-says-trump-got-rolled-by-turkey-and-has-no-spine/ar-AAIqDkW?ocid=spartanntp
Moscow Mitch and Looseintheloafers Lindsey are reportedly really really pissed.
Re: Trump was rolled by Turkey
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:29 pm
by Mark
If members of congress want a war with Turkey, Syria, or anybody else, they need to hold a vote and declare it. That's how our system works. All wars are declared by congress.
The job of the Commander in Chief is to execute the war.
Re: Trump was rolled by Turkey
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:33 pm
by planosteve
Mark wrote:If members of congress want a war with Turkey, Syria, or anybody else, they need to hold a vote and declare it. That's how our system works. All wars are declared by congress.
The job of the Commander in Chief is to execute the war.
He's not starting a war, he's leaving one. But, the Commander in Chief is actually a dictator in foreign policy that can do whatever the hell he wants.
Re: Trump was rolled by Turkey
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:08 pm
by Mark
planosteve wrote:Mark wrote:If members of congress want a war with Turkey, Syria, or anybody else, they need to hold a vote and declare it. That's how our system works. All wars are declared by congress.
The job of the Commander in Chief is to execute the war.
He's not starting a war, he's leaving one. But, the Commander in Chief is actually a dictator in foreign policy that can do whatever the hell he wants.
What war is he leaving? When was it declared?
Once again, if congress wants troops there, all they have to do is vote on it. That is our system.
Re: Trump was rolled by Turkey
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:10 pm
by GFB
A dope that hates Trump wrote this.
Trump has called everyone’s bluff, is letting people fight their own wars, and keeping his promises.
Re: Trump was rolled by Turkey
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:22 pm
by GFB
Year after year, Planosteve screams for an end to endless foreign wars.
..goes on and on about the problems we create in Syria..and why we must leave.
Trump comes along..actually does it..and now he says Trump got rolled.
Re: Trump was rolled by Turkey
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:26 pm
by GFB
Trump has also put Iran, Turkey, Russia and other regional competitors..in “check.”
They will now be forced to work this out however they want..war, peace..whatever.
Re: Trump was rolled by Turkey
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:57 pm
by planosteve
GFB wrote:Year after year, Planosteve screams for an end to endless foreign wars.
..goes on and on about the problems we create in Syria..and why we must leave.
Trump comes along..actually does it..and now he says Trump got rolled.
No, Trump said he was going to do it. That ended when he was elected. It was his shtick. Instead, he went sword dancing with the camel humpers and schmoozing with Nutjob Yahoo and his apartheid state.
Re: Trump was rolled by Turkey
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:03 pm
by GFB
planosteve wrote:GFB wrote:Year after year, Planosteve screams for an end to endless foreign wars.
..goes on and on about the problems we create in Syria..and why we must leave.
Trump comes along..actually does it..and now he says Trump got rolled.
No, Trump said he was going to do it. That ended when he was elected. It was his shtick. Instead, he went sword dancing with the camel humpers and schmoozing with Nutjob Yahoo and his apartheid state.
Nice deflection peppered with racism and anti Semitism.
Trump is doing what you and that phoney baloney “Lilly” wanted all along.
Classic TDS.
Why don’t you just thank him and declare victory.
Re: Trump was rolled by Turkey
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:13 pm
by planosteve
GFB wrote:planosteve wrote:GFB wrote:Year after year, Planosteve screams for an end to endless foreign wars.
..goes on and on about the problems we create in Syria..and why we must leave.
Trump comes along..actually does it..and now he says Trump got rolled.
No, Trump said he was going to do it. That ended when he was elected. It was his shtick. Instead, he went sword dancing with the camel humpers and schmoozing with Nutjob Yahoo and his apartheid state.
Nice deflection peppered with racism and anti Semitism.
Trump is doing what you and that phoney baloney “Lilly” wanted all along.
Classic TDS.
Why don’t you just thank him and declare victory.
"Racism"? What race are you referring to?
I'm not complaining about what he is doing. What is appalling is that he totally reversed US policy that has been in effect for years without consulting anyone. At a time that he's being impeached! And what is "phony baloney" about Lilly who lives in Latakia, Syria?
Re: Trump was rolled by Turkey
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:17 pm
by GFB
planosteve wrote:GFB wrote:planosteve wrote:No, Trump said he was going to do it. That ended when he was elected. It was his shtick. Instead, he went sword dancing with the camel humpers and schmoozing with Nutjob Yahoo and his apartheid state.
Nice deflection peppered with racism and anti Semitism.
Trump is doing what you and that phoney baloney “Lilly” wanted all along.
Classic TDS.
Why don’t you just thank him and declare victory.
"Racism"? What race are you referring to?
I'm not complaining about what he is doing. What is appalling is that he totally reversed US policy that has been in effect for years without consulting anyone. At a time that he's being impeached! And what is "phony baloney" about Lilly who lives in Latakia, Syria?
If she’s real you can go ahead and start posting her “thank you” messages for Trump.
Re: Trump was rolled by Turkey
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:26 am
by grouchy
Mr Trump has screwed our allies. Major mistake.
Re: Trump was rolled by Turkey
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:38 pm
by glenn/dallas
grouchy wrote:Mr Trump has screwed our allies. Major mistake.
and all of our Allies have been so supportative of the USA in the past, right ?
Re: Trump was rolled by Turkey
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:46 pm
by planosteve
glenn/dallas wrote:grouchy wrote:Mr Trump has screwed our allies. Major mistake.
and all of our Allies have been so supportative of the USA in the past, right ?
And they didn't even land on the beach with us at Normandy. The bastards!
Re: Trump was rolled by Turkey
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:19 am
by GFB
Trump’s doing the right thing in Syria..getting the hell out and letting all the scummy factions kill each other.
It’s what they’ve done for centuries.
Sunnis, Shiites, and many miscellaneous terrorists can now go back to doing what they do best..slaughter each other.
No reason to be anywhere near any of that.
..and no the Kurds are not our allies.
We went to help them kill Isis..because Isis fighters needed to be dead..the Kurds were already fighting them.
We beat Isis..now we should get the hell out..we have no reason to side with anyone over there.
Re: Trump was rolled by Turkey
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:51 am
by planosteve
I don't know whether failure to support the Kurds is a good thing or not. But, using that the excuse that they didn't storm the beach in Normandy is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard anyone say.
Re: Trump was rolled by Turkey
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:06 am
by GFB
planosteve wrote:I don't know whether failure to support the Kurds is a good thing or not. But, using that the excuse that they didn't storm the beach in Normandy is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard anyone say.
It wasn’t an excuse.
It was a reminder of how our allies got to be allies..and for some all around perspective about why some things matter..and some things don’t.
Re: Trump was rolled by Turkey
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:55 am
by planosteve
GFB wrote:planosteve wrote:I don't know whether failure to support the Kurds is a good thing or not. But, using that the excuse that they didn't storm the beach in Normandy is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard anyone say.
It wasn’t an excuse.
It was a reminder of how our allies got to be allies..and for some all around perspective about why some things matter..and some things don’t.
Our allies were countries. Kurdistan is a region in a number of countries. It has no government and is not a country. So, it could never be an "allie".
Re: Trump was rolled by Turkey
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:52 pm
by grouchy
GFB wrote:Trump’s doing the right thing in Syria..getting the hell out and letting all the scummy factions kill each other.
It’s what they’ve done for centuries.
Sunnis, Shiites, and many miscellaneous terrorists can now go back to doing what they do best..slaughter each other.
No reason to be anywhere near any of that.
"..and no the Kurds are not our allies."
We went to help them kill Isis..because Isis fighters needed to be dead..the Kurds were already fighting them.
We beat Isis..now we should get the hell out..we have no reason to side with anyone over there.
Gen. Mattis disagrees with you.
Re: Trump was rolled by Turkey
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:58 pm
by grouchy
planosteve wrote:GFB wrote:planosteve wrote:I don't know whether failure to support the Kurds is a good thing or not. But, using that the excuse that they didn't storm the beach in Normandy is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard anyone say.
It wasn’t an excuse.
It was a reminder of how our allies got to be allies..and for some all around perspective about why some things matter..and some things don’t.
Our allies were countries. Kurdistan is a region in a number of countries. It has no government and is not a country. So, it could never be an "allie".
We're the Montagnards our allies?