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Israel knew about Hamas's attack plan more than a year ago.

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:24 am
by planosteve
Front page article of the New York Times this morning. Can't quote the article. Main story on TV News this morning.

Re: Israel knew about Hamas's attack plan more than a year ago.

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:46 am
by jellowrestling
While ominous, none of the emails predicted that war was imminent. Nor did the analyst challenge the conventional wisdom among Israeli intelligence officials that Yahya Sinwar, the leader of Hamas, was not interested in war with Israel. But she correctly assessed that Hamas’ capabilities had drastically improved. The gap between the possible and the aspirational had narrowed significantly.

The failures to connect the dots echoed another analytical failure more than two decades ago, when American authorities also had multiple indications that the terrorist group al-Qaida was preparing an assault. The Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were largely a failure of analysis and imagination, a government commission concluded.

“The Israeli intelligence failure on Oct. 7 is sounding more and more like our 9/11,” said Ted Singer, a recently retired senior CIA official who worked extensively in the Middle East. “The failure will be a gap in analysis to paint a convincing picture to military and political leadership that Hamas had the intention to launch the attack when it did.”

Sounds like some intelligence and defense honchos in Israel need to be relegated to latrine duty.

Re: Israel knew about Hamas's attack plan more than a year ago.

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:58 am
by planosteve
Israel did 9/11. The towers were wired with explosives during the summer by MOSSAD and former Israeli military staying in the towers supposedly working for the Ace Elevator Co.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracyNOPO ... he_noname/

Re: Israel knew about Hamas's attack plan more than a year ago.

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 12:43 pm
by jellowrestling
planosteve wrote:Israel did 9/11. The towers were wired with explosives during the summer by MOSSAD and former Israeli military staying in the towers supposedly working for the Ace Elevator Co.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracyNOPO ... he_noname/

On top of being a Jew-hater, you're a stupid SOB. For this to have any semblance of truth, the MOSSAD would have had to coordinate with Osama Bin Laden to have planes flown into the towers and Pentagon. Just incredible stupidity and gullibility.

Re: Israel knew about Hamas's attack plan more than a year ago.

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 1:25 pm
by planosteve
jellowrestling wrote:
planosteve wrote:Israel did 9/11. The towers were wired with explosives during the summer by MOSSAD and former Israeli military staying in the towers supposedly working for the Ace Elevator Co.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracyNOPO ... he_noname/

On top of being a Jew-hater, you're a stupid SOB. For this to have any semblance of truth, the MOSSAD would have had to coordinate with Osama Bin Laden to have planes flown into the towers and Pentagon. Just incredible stupidity and gullibility.

Bid Laden had nothing to do with 9/11.
The 2nd plane was not an airliner. Nobody who saw it thought that it was. It had no markings.
Whatever hit the pentagon was not an airliner or even a plane. There were no plane parts and no bodies. Probably a tomahawk. Same at Shanksville. There were no airplane parts and no bodies.

Re: Israel knew about Hamas's attack plan more than a year ago.

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 2:27 pm
by GRANDPA
planosteve wrote:
jellowrestling wrote:
planosteve wrote:Israel did 9/11. The towers were wired with explosives during the summer by MOSSAD and former Israeli military staying in the towers supposedly working for the Ace Elevator Co.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracyNOPO ... he_noname/

On top of being a Jew-hater, you're a stupid SOB. For this to have any semblance of truth, the MOSSAD would have had to coordinate with Osama Bin Laden to have planes flown into the towers and Pentagon. Just incredible stupidity and gullibility.

Bid Laden had nothing to do with 9/11.
The 2nd plane was not an airliner. Nobody who saw it thought that it was. It had no markings.
Whatever hit the pentagon was not an airliner or even a plane. There were no plane parts and no bodies. Probably a tomahawk. Same at Shanksville. There were no airplane parts and no bodies.

Let me guess, you also believe Earth is flat & we never landed men on the Moon.


Re: Israel knew about Hamas's attack plan more than a year ago.

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:10 pm
by planosteve
GRANDPA wrote:
planosteve wrote:
jellowrestling wrote:On top of being a Jew-hater, you're a stupid SOB. For this to have any semblance of truth, the MOSSAD would have had to coordinate with Osama Bin Laden to have planes flown into the towers and Pentagon. Just incredible stupidity and gullibility.

Bid Laden had nothing to do with 9/11.
The 2nd plane was not an airliner. Nobody who saw it thought that it was. It had no markings.
Whatever hit the pentagon was not an airliner or even a plane. There were no plane parts and no bodies. Probably a tomahawk. Same at Shanksville. There were no airplane parts and no bodies.

Let me guess, you also believe Earth is flat & we never landed men on the Moon.

Did it ever strike you as strange that you can't see any stars when your walking around on the moon?

Re: Israel knew about Hamas's attack plan more than a year ago.

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 5:17 pm
by jellowrestling
planosteve wrote:
jellowrestling wrote:
planosteve wrote:Israel did 9/11. The towers were wired with explosives during the summer by MOSSAD and former Israeli military staying in the towers supposedly working for the Ace Elevator Co.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracyNOPO ... he_noname/

On top of being a Jew-hater, you're a stupid SOB. For this to have any semblance of truth, the MOSSAD would have had to coordinate with Osama Bin Laden to have planes flown into the towers and Pentagon. Just incredible stupidity and gullibility.

Bid Laden had nothing to do with 9/11.
The 2nd plane was not an airliner. Nobody who saw it thought that it was. It had no markings.
Whatever hit the pentagon was not an airliner or even a plane. There were no plane parts and no bodies. Probably a tomahawk. Same at Shanksville. There were no airplane parts and no bodies.

So, what happened to all the passengers on those planes? What happened to Barbara Olson? She was the wife of the Solicitor General of the U.S. What happened to the people who called loved ones to say that their plane had been hijacked? Were all of those people spirited away somewhere? And EVERYONE knows that the second plane was an airliner, there were plenty of parts at Shanksville AND the Pentagon, and everything you say about this is ridiculous and absurd.

Re: Israel knew about Hamas's attack plan more than a year ago.

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 5:24 pm
by jellowrestling
planosteve wrote:
GRANDPA wrote:
planosteve wrote:Bid Laden had nothing to do with 9/11.
The 2nd plane was not an airliner. Nobody who saw it thought that it was. It had no markings.
Whatever hit the pentagon was not an airliner or even a plane. There were no plane parts and no bodies. Probably a tomahawk. Same at Shanksville. There were no airplane parts and no bodies.

Let me guess, you also believe Earth is flat & we never landed men on the Moon.

Did it ever strike you as strange that you can't see any stars when your walking around on the moon?

You CAN see stars when walking around on the moon. What you CAN'T do is get a usable picture with stars in it, because it's too bright on the moon.

Why are there no stars in the photographs?

IN A NUTSHELL: Because there shouldn’t be any. The surface of the Moon at the landing site was in daylight, so the cameras were set for daylight. Stars are too faint to be photographed with daylight settings. The same thing also happens in Russian and Chinese photos taken on the Moon and in space with these settings. Only Venus shines brightly enough to be photographed, but it’s a planet, not a star, and it’s far brighter than actual stars.

https://moonhoaxdebunked.blogspot.com/2 ... raphs.html

Re: Israel knew about Hamas's attack plan more than a year ago.

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:33 am
by planosteve
jellowrestling wrote:
planosteve wrote:
jellowrestling wrote:On top of being a Jew-hater, you're a stupid SOB. For this to have any semblance of truth, the MOSSAD would have had to coordinate with Osama Bin Laden to have planes flown into the towers and Pentagon. Just incredible stupidity and gullibility.

Bid Laden had nothing to do with 9/11.
The 2nd plane was not an airliner. Nobody who saw it thought that it was. It had no markings.
Whatever hit the pentagon was not an airliner or even a plane. There were no plane parts and no bodies. Probably a tomahawk. Same at Shanksville. There were no airplane parts and no bodies.

So, what happened to all the passengers on those planes? What happened to Barbara Olson? She was the wife of the Solicitor General of the U.S. What happened to the people who called loved ones to say that their plane had been hijacked? Were all of those people spirited away somewhere? And EVERYONE knows that the second plane was an airliner, there were plenty of parts at Shanksville AND the Pentagon, and everything you say about this is ridiculous and absurd.
No, everyone did not say the 2nd plane was an airliner. They said it was a large, gray plane. Not an airliner. And it had a large pod under the right wing. It shows up clearly in the pictures. And just before it hit the tower there was a very bright flash of light. Airplane parts means nothing, except for the landing gear and engines which are indestructible and identifiable as to what plane they belong to.

Re: Israel knew about Hamas's attack plan more than a year ago.

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:36 pm
by jellowrestling
planosteve wrote:
jellowrestling wrote:
planosteve wrote:Bid Laden had nothing to do with 9/11.
The 2nd plane was not an airliner. Nobody who saw it thought that it was. It had no markings.
Whatever hit the pentagon was not an airliner or even a plane. There were no plane parts and no bodies. Probably a tomahawk. Same at Shanksville. There were no airplane parts and no bodies.

So, what happened to all the passengers on those planes? What happened to Barbara Olson? She was the wife of the Solicitor General of the U.S. What happened to the people who called loved ones to say that their plane had been hijacked? Were all of those people spirited away somewhere? And EVERYONE knows that the second plane was an airliner, there were plenty of parts at Shanksville AND the Pentagon, and everything you say about this is ridiculous and absurd.
No, everyone did not say the 2nd plane was an airliner. They said it was a large, gray plane. Not an airliner. And it had a large pod under the right wing. It shows up clearly in the pictures. And just before it hit the tower there was a very bright flash of light. Airplane parts means nothing, except for the landing gear and engines which are indestructible and identifiable as to what plane they belong to.

You're lying. There is no bright flash of light, and there is no "pod" under either wing, unless you consider a jet engine a pod. Or maybe you've never seen this video, and are just parroting the nonsense of other kookburgers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGVVzrPXRWE

Re: Israel knew about Hamas's attack plan more than a year ago.

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:23 pm
by planosteve
If I run across it again, I'll post it. But, I'm not going to waste my time searching for it for your benefit.

Re: Israel knew about Hamas's attack plan more than a year ago.

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:35 pm
by GFB
planosteve wrote:If I run across it again, I'll post it. But, I'm not going to waste my time searching for it for your benefit.



Please don’t.

Re: Israel knew about Hamas's attack plan more than a year ago.

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:32 am
by planosteve
GFB wrote:
planosteve wrote:If I run across it again, I'll post it. But, I'm not going to waste my time searching for it for your benefit.



Please don’t.
When is the next Trump Rally?

Re: Israel knew about Hamas's attack plan more than a year ago.

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:32 am
by GFB
planosteve wrote:
GFB wrote:
planosteve wrote:If I run across it again, I'll post it. But, I'm not going to waste my time searching for it for your benefit.



Please don’t.
When is the next Trump Rally?


No one can or would bait and switch like you.

Re: Israel knew about Hamas's attack plan more than a year ago.

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:09 am
by jellowrestling
planosteve wrote:If I run across it again, I'll post it. But, I'm not going to waste my time searching for it for your benefit.

So, just parroting the nonsense of other kookburgers, then.