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Growing Oct. 7 ‘truther’ groups say Hamas massacre was a false flag!

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:39 pm
by planosteve
Actually, that was my very first thought. Why would they do that and bring down the dogs of hell from Israel down on their heads? It made no sense. Now, finally some other people are beginning to catch on as well.

When she first heard about Hamas’s Oct. 7 attack on Israel, Mirela Monte was “appalled.” The South Carolina real estate agent and self-described holistic healer detests violence and is horrified by war and human suffering.

But as Monte read more in Uncensored Truths, a Telegram group with 2,958 subscribers active on foreign policy and the supposed perils of vaccination, her shock turned to anger. According to the forum, the news reports were wrong: Secretly, Israel was behind the massacre.

Monte now argues the Oct. 7 attack was a “false flag” staged by the Israelis — likely with help from the Americans — to justify genocide in Gaza. “Pure evil,” she said. “Israel is like a mad dog off a leash.”
The Oct. 7 Hamas terrorist attack is among the most well-documented in history. A crush of evidence from smartphone cameras and GoPros captured Hamas’s breach of the border — a strike Israel says left about 1,200 dead, the deadliest onslaught in the country’s history.

But Oct. 7 denial is spreading. A small but growing group denies the basic facts of the attacks, pushing a spectrum of falsehoods and misleading narratives that minimize the violence or dispute its origins. Some argue the ambush was staged by the Israeli military to justify an invasion of Gaza. Others say that some 240 hostages Hamas took into Gaza were actually kidnapped by Israel. Some contend the United States is behind the plot.

These untrue and misleading narratives have been seeded on social media, where hashtags and terms linking Israel to “false flag” — a staged event that casts blame on another party — tripled on services including TikTok, Reddit and 4chan in the weeks after the attacks, according to the Network Contagion Research Institute, a nonprofit tracking disinformation.

It’s bleeding into the real world: Demonstrators have shouted the claim at anti-Israel protests and have used it to justify removing posters of hostages in cities like London and Chicago. At a November city council meeting in Oakland, Calif., multiple residents disputed the veracity of the attack.

“Israel murdered their own people on October 7,” said Christina Gutierrez, an analyst in the city’s housing department, where some in the crowd shouted “antisemitism isn’t real.” Gutierrez did not respond to requests for comment.

The phenomenon is worrisome to Jewish leaders and researchers who see ties to Holocaust denial, the attempt to undermine the genocide that killed 6 million Jews during World War II, a belief that has surged online. They also see parallels to many pernicious, internet-driven conspiracy theories with antisemitic tentacles, including the QAnon conspiracy theory, which alleges “globalists” — a reference, some say, to Jews — used the pandemic to control the world, and disinformation about the 9/11 terrorist attack, which some fringe groups falsely argue was perpetrated by the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/gr ... r-BB1h1UjX

Re: Growing Oct. 7 ‘truther’ groups say Hamas massacre was a false flag!

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:12 pm
by jellowrestling
A small but growing group denies the basic facts of the attacks, pushing a spectrum of falsehoods and misleading narratives that minimize the violence or dispute its origins.

Yep. Sounds just like you.

Re: Growing Oct. 7 ‘truther’ groups say Hamas massacre was a false flag!

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:40 am
by planosteve
jellowrestling wrote:
A small but growing group denies the basic facts of the attacks, pushing a spectrum of falsehoods and misleading narratives that minimize the violence or dispute its origins.

Yep. Sounds just like you.

I haven't heard of any actual evidence that Hamas staged the attacks. Have you?

Re: Growing Oct. 7 ‘truther’ groups say Hamas massacre was a false flag!

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:54 am
by Sangersteve
I haven't seen any actual evidence that Hamas staged the attacks. Have you?


Hamas admits they attacked Israel, so there is that.

But, no there is no video of them planning the attack.

Shouldn't you be out helping illegal immigrants?

Re: Growing Oct. 7 ‘truther’ groups say Hamas massacre was a false flag!

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:11 am
by planosteve
Sangersteve wrote:
I haven't seen any actual evidence that Hamas staged the attacks. Have you?


Hamas admits they attacked Israel, so there is that.

But, no there is no video of them planning the attack.

Shouldn't you be out helping illegal immigrants?

We thought there was a "Holocaust" too. For decades. But, now we know there wasn't. It can take a long time to "prove" something like that. To me the idea that "Hamas" would want a war with Israel which they would surely loose doesn't make much sense. But, the idea that Nut Job would, as an excuse to destroy Gaza, does.

Re: Growing Oct. 7 ‘truther’ groups say Hamas massacre was a false flag!

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:14 am
by Mark
Your nonsensical ramblings don't even deserve replies.

Re: Growing Oct. 7 ‘truther’ groups say Hamas massacre was a false flag!

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:17 am
by planosteve
Mark wrote:Your nonsensical ramblings don't even deserve replies.

You don't like getting treaded on do you? :lol:

Re: Growing Oct. 7 ‘truther’ groups say Hamas massacre was a false flag!

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:02 am
by planosteve
Mark wrote:Your nonsensical ramblings don't even deserve replies.

Good dodge. 8-)

Re: Growing Oct. 7 ‘truther’ groups say Hamas massacre was a false flag!

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:37 am
by GFB
Mark wrote:Your nonsensical ramblings don't even deserve replies.


No they don’t..he’s all your’s.

Re: Growing Oct. 7 ‘truther’ groups say Hamas massacre was a false flag!

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:10 am
by planosteve
You have two ways to go. Do your own research or believe Trump. :lol:

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/r ... &FORM=VIRE