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The interaction sparked fury from American observers but was celebrated almost immediately by Russian state media outlets and supporters of Putin.
Dmitry Medvedev, the former president and prime minister of Russia who now serves as deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, wrote on Telegram: "A fierce dressing down in the Oval Office. Trump told the cocaine clown the truth to his face for the first time: the Kiev regime is playing with World War III. And the ungrateful pig got a solid slap from the pigsty owners. This is useful. But it is not enough – we need to stop military aid to the Nazi machine."
The state-controlled media outlet RT characterized the Trump-Zelensky meeting as a dressing down, writing on X: "Zelensky sits with hands between legs as US President and VP hammer him."
Earlier Friday, the White House kicked a reporter from the Russian state news agency TASS out of the Oval Office.
"TASS was not on the approved list of media for today's pool," a White House official told Newsweek. "As soon as it came to the attention of press office staff that he was in the Oval, he was escorted out by the Press Secretary."
TASS, for its part, published a number of articles characterizing Zelensky as rude and ineffectual.
The outlet also appeared to leave unanswered the question of whether the U.S. sides with Ukraine over Russia.
"Zelensky rehashed his usual accusations against Russia," one article on the TASS website said. "Asked if he believed in further support from the US, he tried to give Trump an opportunity to answer, which Trump ignored. Zelensky then began to say that the US is on the side of Ukraine, but Trump left that statement without comment."
Friday's meeting between Trump and Zelensky came after Trump stunned Ukraine and its European allies this month when he opened a dialogue with Putin about ending the war without including Zelensky in the conversation.
Trump also falsely claimed that Ukraine started the war and called Zelensky a "dictator."
Zelensky responded by saying that Trump lives in a "disinformation" universe and accused him of parroting Russian talking points.
The U.S. president has said he wants to sign a deal with Zelensky in which Ukraine will turn over half its revenues from rare-earth minerals. The latest draft of the deal did not include any security guarantees on the U.S.'s part. A White House official told Newsweek on Friday that the deal hasn't yet been signed.
Zelensky issued a statement following his meeting with Trump and Vance, saying on X: "Thank you America, thank you for your support, thank you for this visit. Thank you Congress, and the American people. Ukraine needs just and lasting peace, and we are working exactly for that."
British television host and longtime Trump backer Piers Morgan wrote on X: "The only winner from today's Oval Office debacle is Vladimir Putin... and anyone who thinks that is a good thing for the world is stunningly deluded."
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Putin Allies Rejoice After Heated Trump-Zelensky White House Meeting
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Putin Allies Rejoice After Heated Trump-Zelensky White House Meeting
Make America Great Again. Impeach Trump! 

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This was a major propaganda coup of the first order for Putin. Trump doesn't understand that one should praise in public, correct in private. They could have had a fist fight behind closed doors, then come out with torn shirts, black eyes, bloody noses, cut lips & cauliflower ears and told the media they had a frank & productive conversation. In the long run, this will come back to bite Trump and us in the ass.
A bad peace inevitably leads to a worse war.
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GRANDPA wrote:This was a major propaganda coup of the first order for Putin. Trump doesn't understand that one should praise in public, correct in private. They could have had a fist fight behind closed doors, then come out with torn shirts, black eyes, bloody noses, cut lips & cauliflower ears and told the media they had a frank & productive conversation. In the long run, this will come back to bite Trump and us in the ass.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
Trump let it go on and on to show America the lowlife we’ve been sending tens of billions of dollars to.
Huge screw up by Zoolander..big win for Trump, and even if the mineral deal never happens..(it will)..no one will ever be credible again that says we should send them more money or armaments.
If you’re “woke”..you’re a loser.
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Thank God it’s over..now all Zoolander can do is beg Europe.
..beautiful!
..beautiful!
If you’re “woke”..you’re a loser.
Re: Putin Allies Rejoice After Heated Trump-Zelensky White House Meeting
Putin is ready for peace. His only barrier to peace is the Ukrainian dictator.
November 5, 2024: The day America got Her second chance.
Re: Putin Allies Rejoice After Heated Trump-Zelensky White House Meeting
Putin ready for peace? That's a good one. Like Hitler after the Sudetenland, he won't be satisfied with keeping only what he has conquered so far, he wants all of Ukraine back in Mother Russia. And not just Ukraine.
A bad peace inevitably leads to a worse war.
Re: Putin Allies Rejoice After Heated Trump-Zelensky White House Meeting
GRANDPA wrote:Putin ready for peace? That's a good one. Like Hitler after the Sudetenland, he won't be satisfied with keeping only what he has conquered so far, he wants all of Ukraine back in Mother Russia. And not just Ukraine.
Putin can want a bunch of things, but the feared Red Army and Air Force has been unable to take Ukraine quickly. What Putin does have is nuclear weapons, a few of which might work.
Russia is not the Soviet Union of the old days.

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"Whoever does not miss the Soviet Union has no heart. Whoever wants it back has no brain"
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A bad peace inevitably leads to a worse war.
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Re: Putin Allies Rejoice After Heated Trump-Zelensky White House Meeting
I'm not sure who the author of this is, but I wholeheartedly agree:
Many of you probably watched what took place between Donald Trump and Zelenskyy tonight. Whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, you might be thinking to yourself, Oh my God, Donald Trump just screwed up.
However, as a lifelong practitioner of martial arts, strategy, and philosophy, let me explain the difference between what you believe you witnessed and what actually happened.
Donald Trump has been under constant political persecution since the beginning of his first term. Over time, he has learned to be patient and calculated.
Tonight, Zelenskyy was invited to the Oval Office. However, both Trump and JD Vance knew exactly what Zelenskyy was going to do—he would use this opportunity, in front of the American people, to make a power play. Both Trump and Vance anticipated this.
When Zelenskyy began appealing to the emotions of the American people, JD Vance stepped in, accusing him of disrespecting Donald Trump. This was brilliant strategy. It’s important to understand that Zelenskyy is trying to gain access to NATO.
Trump knew this but could not allow it to happen. If Ukraine joins NATO, the U.S. would be bound by NATO’s collective defense agreement—an attack on one is an attack on all.
Now consider the larger implications: Ukraine and Russia despise each other. If Ukraine were to become a NATO member, any future skirmish between them would obligate the U.S. to enter into direct conflict with Russia. This would mean World War III. And if that happened, China would have to choose a side—they would almost certainly align with Russia.
So what you witnessed tonight was a setup. Trump and JD Vance knew that the only way to achieve peace was to strategically align, at least on the surface, with Russia. Why? Because Russia would never sign a peace treaty if Ukraine were admitted into NATO.
This is why Trump dismantled Zelenskyy’s argument. And when Zelenskyy, seeing his play failing, tried to backtrack and offer a treaty, Trump refused.
Zelenskyy’s real intent was clear—he would not agree to peace unless security guarantees were in place. But what was he actually saying? That NATO must accept Ukraine. However, Russia would never agree to peace, knowing that NATO, their historical adversary, would surround them.
Zelenskyy, Putin, and Trump all knew this. Zelenskyy, thinking he had Democrats' support, believed he could make this bold move on live television. But Trump and Vance saw right through it and outmaneuvered him.
They knew that, in the short term, Democrats and the media would try to use this moment against them. But they also knew they had two years before midterms to prove their strategy was the right one. So they held their ground—brilliantly so.
Now, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to back down and accept Trump's terms. But here’s the genius part—Trump is actually protecting Ukraine without dragging the U.S. into war.
By negotiating a mineral deal, Trump ensures that Americans will be involved in Ukraine’s mining industry. This prevents Russia from launching an invasion, because attacking Ukraine would mean endangering American lives—something that would force the U.S. to respond.
Trump played both sides like a master chess player. In the end, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to concede, because without U.S. support, Ukraine cannot win a prolonged war against Russia. And once U.S. companies have mining operations in Ukraine, Putin will be unable to attack without triggering massive international consequences.
Don’t underestimate Donald Trump. In this game of chess, he’s 10 moves ahead of everyone.
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