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Police will change their mind, I think

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:39 pm
by LibraryLady

Re: Police will change their mind, I think

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:14 pm
by Sangersteve
Posted: 3:35 a.m. Sunday, June 16, 2013

Man found decapitated, police suspect suicide


Wonder what they decided?

Re: Police will change their mind, I think

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:15 pm
by Kiamichi
Not unlikely, if it was suicide by hanging.

Re: Police will change their mind, I think

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:20 pm
by BillB
Kiamichi wrote:Not unlikely, if it was suicide by hanging.


It's unlikely unless the man was severely overweight.
It takes a drop of around 8' or 9' to decapitate a person of average weight.

Re: Police will change their mind, I think

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:22 pm
by BillB


We don't know the circumstances. He could have rammed his neck into a circle saw.

Re: Police will change their mind, I think

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:21 pm
by BigTex
Saddam's half-brother was decapitated when he was hung.

Re: Police will change their mind, I think

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:23 pm
by crocmommy
Such a lovely story!
:shock:

Re: Police will change their mind, I think

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:08 pm
by BillB
BigTex wrote:Saddam's half-brother was decapitated when he was hung.


Yes, but he was hanged from a scaffold, not from a residential ceiling.

I may be proven wrong, but I'll bet there has never been a documented case of a hanging inside a residence resulting in decapitation.
A person's head would have to be 15' or so above floor level for a clean drop of 8' or 9'.
It might be possible if a person weighed 300 or 400 lbs. I'll bet it's never happened.

Re: Police will change their mind, I think

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:27 pm
by Sangersteve
Sangersteve wrote:Posted: 3:35 a.m. Sunday, June 16, 2013

Man found decapitated, police suspect suicide


Wonder what they decided?


The story is over a year old, what was the final outcome?

Re: Police will change their mind, I think

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:37 pm
by BigTex
Maybe he was a Christian who converted to Islam and got real confused.

Re: Police will change their mind, I think

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:14 pm
by Chlorine Tinsley
Reminds me of the old racist joke about the southern sheriff that investigated the discovery of a black man's body - his hands tied behind his back, wrapped in chains, stuffed in a tow-sack and submerged in a stock tank. He ruled it the worst case of suicide he'd ever seen.

Re: Police will change their mind, I think

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:45 pm
by LibraryLady
Back in the Billy Sol Estes era, a man in west Texas was shot 7 times with a rifle and it was called suicide.

This link came from FB, I'll have to browse around and see what was decided.

Re: Police will change their mind, I think

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:07 am
by GFB
crocmommy wrote:Such a lovely story!
:shock:



Cheery thread, isn't it?

Re: Police will change their mind, I think

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:46 am
by LibraryLady
I have been unable to find a follow up story on this. Since no names were given, it makes it difficult to track down.

Re: Police will change their mind, I think

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:27 am
by BigTex
Couple of things. It's not so suspicious that his hands and feet were bound. I have seen pictures of one case where a man was able to complete wrap himself in duct tape, just like a mummy. He suffocated.

If someone helped him tie himself up and then departed the property before the deed was done, is it still suicide?

Re: Police will change their mind, I think

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:55 am
by Kiamichi
BigTex wrote:Couple of things. It's not so suspicious that his hands and feet were bound. I have seen pictures of one case where a man was able to complete wrap himself in duct tape, just like a mummy. He suffocated.

If someone helped him tie himself up and then departed the property before the deed was done, is it still suicide?
It would be homicide in Oklahoma. The law does not make any provision for assisted suicide.

Re: Police will change their mind, I think

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:14 pm
by Red Oak
LibraryLady wrote:I have been unable to find a follow up story on this. Since no names were given, it makes it difficult to track down.


It may have been in the book "A Texan looks at LBJ" ?

As I recall it was a bolt action Rifle.

Re: Police will change their mind, I think

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:51 pm
by LibraryLady
Red Oak wrote:
LibraryLady wrote:I have been unable to find a follow up story on this. Since no names were given, it makes it difficult to track down.


It may have been in the book "A Texan looks at LBJ" ?

As I recall it was a bolt action Rifle.


I was writing about the OK event. I have read about the Texas event in more than one source.
The Texas event involved someone who was either involved with Billy Sol or it happened during the investigation of Billy Sol time period.

Re: Police will change their mind, I think

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:23 pm
by Bob Of Burleson
There was a suicide recently (I forget where) in which a man looped a chain around his neck, hooked the other end to a post, got into his car and hit the gas. Very effective.

Re: Police will change their mind, I think

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:51 pm
by LibraryLady
Lordy, I'd take pills over THAT method!