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more EBOLA in Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:15 am
by Houston
there is a 99.9% chance nothing will happen

well . . . . . .
A health care worker at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital has tested positive for Ebola after a preliminary test, the hospital said in a statement. Confirmatory testing will be conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.

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Re: more EBOLA in Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:32 am
by planosteve

Re: more EBOLA in Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:56 am
by LibraryLady

Re: more EBOLA in Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 8:31 am
by Red Oak
This is bad, really really bad.

Re: more EBOLA in Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 8:46 am
by BillB
I've been watching the news this morning about this.
They're already backing down from the previous claim that direct contact with an infected person is required to become infected.

Presbyterian Hosp is claiming that the 50 hospital workers who treated Duncan have not been allowed any contact with any other patient.
I don't believe it. They couldn't take 50 nurses off their staff and continue to operate.

Re: more EBOLA in Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 8:52 am
by planosteve
BillB wrote:I've been watching the news this morning about this.
They're already backing down from the previous claim that direct contact with an infected person is required to become infected.

Presbyterian Hosp is claiming that the 50 hospital workers who treated Duncan have not been allowed any contact with any other patient.
I don't believe it. They couldn't take 50 nurses off their staff and continue to operate.

They closed the emergency room at that hospital and have to divert them to others in the area.

Re: more EBOLA in Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:03 am
by BillB
I heard that, but they are still admitting patients.
I don't see how that can find a person who would go there.

Re: more EBOLA in Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:09 am
by Red Oak
Wouldn't you have liked to have the look on Jenkins face when they told him ?

Also are we sure that this is not a plot by Perry ?

Re: more EBOLA in Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:14 am
by BillB
They're all claiming now that they expected on or two more cases caused by Duncan.

If there are 50 new cases within the next week, they'll say they expected that.

Re: more EBOLA in Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:16 am
by Red Oak
Didn't I hear them say a few days ago that it was under control ?

Re: more EBOLA in Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:18 am
by BillB
Red Oak wrote:Didn't I hear them say a few days ago that it was under control ?


Yep. "We've stopped it dead".

Re: more EBOLA in Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:25 am
by Red Oak
Chant diversity is our strength and this country is a land of immigrants until it goes away.

Re: more EBOLA in Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:29 am
by BillB
The essential lynch pin in preventing panic is the claim that a person cannot spread the virus unless they are showing symptoms.
They keep repeating this. This limits the people who have to be monitored to about 60.
I posted an article last week from an Ebola researcher saying he wasn't sure that was true- that was pure speculation.

Re: more EBOLA in Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:33 am
by BillB
Red Oak wrote:Chant diversity is our strength and this country is a land of immigrants until it goes away.


What they mean by diversity is a mixture of Ebola, AIDS, Marburg Virus and Tuberculosis.

Re: more EBOLA in Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:34 am
by planosteve

Re: more EBOLA in Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:12 am
by Kiamichi
Also, some Canadian researchers recorded a case of Ebola spreading between monkeys and pigs which they could only explain by airborne contagion.

Re: more EBOLA in Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:41 am
by Mark
The health care workers that take all of the precautions are the ones that keep getting the disease.

The CDC/government are lying to us.

Re: more EBOLA in Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:47 am
by BillB
Kiamichi wrote:Also, some Canadian researchers recorded a case of Ebola spreading between monkeys and pigs which they could only explain by airborne contagion.


Airborne is a definite possibility.
The CDC official position was that the method(s) of transmission were not completely known.
When the Dallas case came along they changed that on their website to direct contact with bodily fluids.

Re: more EBOLA in Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:56 am
by Kiamichi
Talk about blaming the victim. If a nurse gets Ebola it is because she violated protocol. The officials in Spain took the same tack.

http://k2radio.com/dallas-nurse-positiv ... -violated/

WASHINGTON (AP) — A top federal health official says the Ebola diagnosis in a health care worker who treated Thomas Eric Duncan at a Texas hospital shows there was a clear breach of safety protocol.

Dr. Tom Frieden, head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, says the worker had treated Duncan multiple times after the Liberian man was diagnosed.

Frieden tells CBS’ “Face the Nation” that all those who treated Duncan are now considered to be potentially exposed. Frieden couldn’t give an exact number.

Health care workers treating Duncan were to follow CDC protocol that included wearing protective gear.

Among the things CDC will investigate is how the workers took off that gear — because removing it incorrectly can lead to a contamination.

Duncan died of the disease last Wednesday.


Read More: Dallas Nurse Positive for Ebola…Protocols Violated | http://k2radio.com/dallas-nurse-positiv ... ck=tsmclip

Re: more EBOLA in Texas

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:00 pm
by Kiamichi
Isn't this what is called circular reasoning? What about the possibility that existing protocols are not adequate?

“I think the fact that we don’t know of a breach in protocol is concerning, because clearly there was a breach in protocol,” Frieden said. “We have the ability to prevent the spread of Ebola by caring safely for patients ... We’ll conduct a full investigation of what happens before health workers go in, what happens when they’re there, and what happens in the taking out, taking off their protective equipment because infections only occur when there’s a breach in protocol.”
Read more at http://www.toledoblade.com/Nation/2014/ ... JdUCm0d.99