The Iran Agreement is an astonishingly good deal

[planosteve]

The Iranian framework agreement is an astonishingly good deal, and has the potential to become a historic game-changer. As Robert Parry astutely observed, its about much more than sheaving the threat that Iran will get the bomb:

The April 2 framework agreement with Iran represents more than just a diplomatic deal to prevent nuclear proliferation in the Middle East. It marks a crossroad that offers a possible path for the American Republic to regain its footing and turn away from endless war.

The saliency of that observation lies in the fact that there is virtually nothing in the substance of the deal for the War Party to attack. So what they are doing is desperately hurtling the Iranian axis-of-evil narrative at the agreement, claiming that the regime is so untrustworthy, diabolical and existentially dangerous that no product of mere diplomacy is valid. The Iranians are by axiom hell-bent on evil and no mere “scrap of paper” will stop them.

But therein dwells the game-changing opportunity. To defeat the deal, the War Party will have to defend its three-decade long campaign of exaggerations, distortions and bellicose animosity toward the Iranian state. But that is impossible because the axis-of-evil narrative was never remotely true. Indeed, if the truth be told the War Party has never been required to defend its spurious propaganda thanks in large part to a lazy, gullible mainstream press that has been as negligent on the Iranian evil meme as they were on Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction.

http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/all-praise-to-the-iranian-nuclear-framework-it-finally-exposes-the-war-partys-big-lie/

[Red Oak]

It is a bunch of feel good BS; Iran is going to do what it wants, deal or no deal; sanctions or no sanctions.

[GFB]

Another blithering idiot..calling this an historic deal to prevent nuclear proliferation in the region.

Since all of this started, Saudi Arabia and several other Muslim countries have said THEY will now pursue nuclear weapons, since Iran is being allowed to.

[planosteve]

Another blithering idiot..calling this an historic deal to prevent nuclear proliferation in the region.

Since all of this started, Saudi Arabia and several other Muslim countries have said THEY will now pursue nuclear weapons, since Iran is being allowed to.

How does this agreement allow them to?

[GFB]

Another blithering idiot..calling this an historic deal to prevent nuclear proliferation in the region.

Since all of this started, Saudi Arabia and several other Muslim countries have said THEY will now pursue nuclear weapons, since Iran is being allowed to.

How does this agreement allow them to?

The first question to ask is..how does it STOP them?

Because if not stopped, there are nuclear weapons in their future.

[GFB]

And without attacking them aggressively, and destroying any and all facilities that could or would ever be used to develop them, all countries that we don't want to ever develop nuclear weapons..will have them.

..and Iran should be at the top of that list.

[ralph]

that's the main thing , arms race is on . Saudis have already making noise plus Egypt doesn't like it . Oh well , really just a problem for the 'marie harf' generation of mrobama supporters and their kids to worry about !!

[planosteve]

I will go with Stockman for the reason that he is about 10 times smarter than anyone else I know. And if you read his whole piece, which I'm almost certain nobody here did, you will find it very hard to argue with anything he says. And I'm certain you will not hear anyone on Fox News or the Limbaugh Show taking him on.

[ann jusko]

I liked Stockman at one point (about two + years ago) and then he started getting flakey. And he's still flakey!

[Mark]

It's a great deal for all of the Jew haters of the world. Israel is clearly in the cross hairs of Obama and his Iranian cronies.

[planosteve]

It's a great deal for all of the Jew haters of the world. Israel is clearly in the cross hairs of Obama and his Iranian cronies.

Yeah, all of us "Jew haters" are really going to cash in now.

[Sangersteve]

What about Obama admitting they could be ready to go in 15 years?

WASHINGTON — President Obama is conceding something many of his critics fear: that Iran could end up much closer to developing an atomic bomb at the end of the nuclear agreement now being negotiated.

“They’re not going to have been able to hoard a bunch of uranium that somehow they then convert to weapons-grade uranium,” Obama told NPR in an interview that aired Tuesday.

“What is a more relevant fear would be that in year 13, 14, 15, they have advanced centrifuges that enrich uranium fairly rapidly, and at that point, the breakout times would have shrunk almost down to zero.

“…but at that point we have much better ideas about what it is that their program involves. We have much more insight into their capabilities. And the option of a future president to take action if in fact they try to obtain a nuclear weapon is undiminished.”

[Sangersteve]

Iran will begin using its latest generation IR-8 centrifuges as soon as its nuclear deal with the world powers goes into effect, Iran’s foreign minister and nuclear chief told members of parliament on Tuesday, according to Iran’s semi-official FARS news agency.

If accurate, the report makes a mockery of the world powers’ much-hailed framework agreement with Iran, since such a move clearly breaches the US-published terms of the deal, and would dramatically accelerate Iran’s potential progress to the bomb.

Iran has said that its IR-8 centrifuges enrich uranium 20 times faster than the IR-1 centrifuges it currently uses.

[planosteve]

And unlike Hitler at Munich who got most of what he wanted, the Iranians at Lausanne gave up almost all of what they had. That is, they made huge concessions on nearly every issue that makes a difference including the number of permitted centrifuges at Natanz, the status of Fordow and Arak, the disposition of its enriched uranium stockpiles, the intrusiveness and scope of the inspections regime and on the matter of Iran’s so-called “breakout” capacity.

While every signatory of the non-proliferation treaty has the right to civilian enrichment, Iran has agreed to reduce the number of centrifuges by 70% from 20,000 to 6,000. And its effective capacity has been reduced by significantly more. That’s because the permitted Natanz centrifuges will consist exclusively of its most rudimentary, outdated equipment—— first-generation IR-1 knockoffs of 1970s European models.

Not only will they not be allowed to build or develop newer models, but even those remaining will be permitted to enrich uranium to a limit of only 3.75% purity. That is to say, to the generation of fissile material that is not remotely capable of reaching bomb grade concentrations of 90%.

Equally importantly, they have agreed to eliminate enrichment activity entirely at Fordow—-Iran’s one truly advanced, hardened site that could withstand an onslaught of Israeli or US bunker busters. Instead, Fordow will become a small time underground science lab devoted to medical isotope research and crawling with international inspectors. In effectively decommissioning Fordow and thereby eliminating any capacity to cheat—–what Iran got in return was at best a fig leave of salve for its national pride.

[ralph]

its all foolishness in my opinion , Iranians will lie . cheat and do as they like . Even their religion advises on how to deal with 'kufir' and iran is a religious sharia led state !!

[planosteve]

its all foolishness in my opinion , Iranians will lie . cheat and do as they like . Even their religion advises on how to deal with 'kufir' and iran is a religious sharia led state !!

Then they must be pretty damn good at it.

What obliterates that false picture more decisively than anything else is that Iran has no nuclear weapons program. Period. All the hysteria about the mullahs getting the bomb is based on the wholly theoretically supposition that they want civilian enrichment only as a stepping stone to the bomb. Yet the entirety of the US intelligence complex and America’s most dangerous war monger of recent times, George W. Bush, both say it isn’t so.

[jellowrestling]

I remember the great deal that the Clintonians made with North Korea that kept them from acquiring nuclear weapons.

[ralph]

everyone knows Thomas Sowell and this is his opinion !! --- http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... m=referral --- I think that Sowell is pretty smart and I have thought that for years !!

[planosteve]

Whenever Sowell wanders off the subject of economics he usually ends up on the wrong side of the street.

[jellowrestling]

Whenever Sowell wanders off the subject of economics he usually ends up on the wrong side of the street.

Riiiiiiight.