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The lies of Hillary

Postby Sangersteve » Tue May 26, 2015 9:42 am

A long article, but well worth a read. Jonah Goldberg nails it.


Dear Reader (including Josh Duggar who foolishly got a job at the Family Research Council rather than as a party planner on Jeffrey Epstein’s plane), Bill Clinton is the greatest gaslighter in modern American politics. This is from the Wikipedia entry on “Gaslighting”: Sociopaths frequently use gaslighting tactics. Sociopaths consistently transgress social mores, break laws, and exploit others, but typically, are also charming and convincing liars who consistently deny wrongdoing. Thus, some who have been victimized by sociopaths may doubt their perceptions. Some physically abusive spouses may gaslight their partners by flatly denying that they have been violent. Gaslighting describes a dynamic observed in some cases of marital infidelity: “Therapists may contribute to the victim’s distress through mislabeling the woman’s reactions. . . . The gaslighting behaviors of the husband provide a recipe for the so-called ’nervous breakdown’ for some women [and] suicide in some of the worst situations.”


Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... h-goldberg
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Re: The lies of Hillary

Postby millergrovesue » Tue May 26, 2015 10:10 am

I've never questioned that Bill is a sociopath. Hadn't thought about Hillary being one but it makes sense.
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Re: The lies of Hillary

Postby Red Oak » Tue May 26, 2015 10:54 am

The Democrat Base in a large part are sociopaths.
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Re: The lies of Hillary

Postby truep » Tue May 26, 2015 11:48 am

millergrovesue wrote:I've never questioned that Bill is a sociopath. Hadn't thought about Hillary being one but it makes sense.

Oh yeah, where do you think Bill learned it from? They are two peas in a pod.

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Re: The lies of Hillary

Postby millergrovesue » Tue May 26, 2015 11:52 am

truep wrote:
millergrovesue wrote:I've never questioned that Bill is a sociopath. Hadn't thought about Hillary being one but it makes sense.

Oh yeah, where do you think Bill learned it from? They are two peas in a pod.


I think psychopaths are born, not made. But it does make sense that 2 psychopaths might be attracted to each other for whatever reasons.
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Re: The lies of Hillary

Postby truep » Tue May 26, 2015 11:56 am

Then they were both born that way!

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Re: The lies of Hillary

Postby BillB » Tue May 26, 2015 12:32 pm

truep wrote:
millergrovesue wrote:I've never questioned that Bill is a sociopath. Hadn't thought about Hillary being one but it makes sense.

Oh yeah, where do you think Bill learned it from? They are two peas in a pod.


I don't think Bill is a sociopath. He's just a skilled liar and lies to get himself out of trouble.
Hillary is a different story. She is a habitual, uncontrollable liar. She lies even when the truth would suit her better.

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Re: The lies of Hillary

Postby Mark » Tue May 26, 2015 4:15 pm

All Leftists are serial liars.
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Re: The lies of Hillary

Postby jellowrestling » Tue May 26, 2015 9:32 pm

I have told people for nearly 20 years that Bill Clinton has no conscience. He is what is known as a "trust bandit", able to lie to meet his needs/wants without a shred of remorse or guilt. Whereas a normal person would turn red, stutter or clutter words, or show other signs of distress while lying, Clinton makes no distinction between truth and lies. The only difference is between those things that he wants and those he doesn't. It's not that he doesn't know the difference, it's that he doesn't care (again, unless it meets his needs).

I think Hillary Clinton is much more dangerous.

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Re: The lies of Hillary

Postby millergrovesue » Wed May 27, 2015 7:06 am

jellowrestling wrote:I have told people for nearly 20 years that Bill Clinton has no conscience. He is what is known as a "trust bandit", able to lie to meet his needs/wants without a shred of remorse or guilt. Whereas a normal person would turn red, stutter or clutter words, or show other signs of distress while lying, Clinton makes no distinction between truth and lies. The only difference is between those things that he wants and those he doesn't. It's not that he doesn't know the difference, it's that he doesn't care (again, unless it meets his needs).

I think Hillary Clinton is much more dangerous.


Lack of conscience is one of the hallmarks of a psychopath.
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Re: The lies of Hillary

Postby planosteve » Wed May 27, 2015 7:37 am

Funny how liberalism is getting more and more popular while conservatism is getting less and less.


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Postby millergrovesue » Wed May 27, 2015 9:57 am

planosteve wrote:Funny how liberalism is getting more and more popular while conservatism is getting less and less.


http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/latest-columns/20150526-catherine-rampell-why-liberals-are-finally-coming-out-of-the-closet.ece


Perhaps because the far righters seem to have lost their minds and their compassion. I am proud to call myself a moderate these days.
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Re: The lies of Hillary

Postby BigTex » Wed May 27, 2015 12:14 pm

As Newton said, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Stop making the country a liberal cesspool and a lot of the rightwing extremism goes away.

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Re: The lies of Hillary

Postby millergrovesue » Wed May 27, 2015 12:23 pm

BigTex wrote:As Newton said, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Stop making the country a liberal cesspool and a lot of the rightwing extremism goes away.


Extremism will never go away. It will just find new excuses.
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Re: The lies of Hillary

Postby Red Oak » Wed May 27, 2015 12:54 pm

" I am proud to call myself a moderate these days."

Me too !
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Re: The lies of Hillary

Postby BillB » Wed May 27, 2015 1:00 pm

millergrovesue wrote:
planosteve wrote:Funny how liberalism is getting more and more popular while conservatism is getting less and less.


http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/latest-columns/20150526-catherine-rampell-why-liberals-are-finally-coming-out-of-the-closet.ece


Perhaps because the far righters seem to have lost their minds and their compassion. I am proud to call myself a moderate these days.


"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"

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Re: The lies of Hillary

Postby millergrovesue » Wed May 27, 2015 2:51 pm

BillB wrote:
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"

Barry Goldwater- 1964

It was true then and is still true- always will be true.[/quote]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Quoting Goldwater??? Really?????????
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Re: The lies of Hillary

Postby Red Oak » Wed May 27, 2015 2:59 pm

What is a Moderate's statute of limitations on a quote, or what is true or not ?

One election cycle ?
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Re: The lies of Hillary

Postby BillB » Wed May 27, 2015 3:36 pm

millergrovesue wrote:
BillB wrote:
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"

Barry Goldwater- 1964

It was true then and is still true- always will be true.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Quoting Goldwater??? Really?????????


You lost me there.
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Re: The lies of Hillary

Postby millergrovesue » Wed May 27, 2015 3:42 pm

The more I read the more I believe, as all the tests I've taken indicate, that I am a Libertarian. I've voted that way before and more than likely will again. http://lptexas.org/state-platform
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