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Iraq: The big picture

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:35 pm
by Bob Of Burleson

4 Key Things To Know About
The Islamist Surge In Iraq


by Larry Kaplow
NPR.org

The extremist Islamist group ISIS, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, shocked the world this week by conquering the northern city of Mosul, one of Iraq's largest cities and home to some 2 million people.

ISIS is also a key player in the Syrian civil war, fighting both the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad and more moderate rebel forces.

The group is made of Syrian, Iraqi and foreign fighters who slide back and forth between the two countries for attacks on opponents or to take safe haven in the territory they control. Mosul is by far their biggest conquest yet.

Here are several key things to know about the ISIS offensive:

1. The lightning advances haven't been as fast as they seem.

ISIS has been making gains throughout Iraq's western Anbar province and some of the areas around Mosul for months, but this received limited attention. ISIS seized the strategic, but smaller city of Fallujah in January. Fallujah is only about an hour's drive west of Baghdad. The group has also held areas farther to the west, near the Syrian border.

Throughout this period, Iraqi officials have pressed for more weaponry from the U.S., and have received some. Meanwhile, the U.S. and other nations have pressured Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to reach out to these Sunni Muslim areas, which have been alienated by Maliki's Shiite-led government.
A Kurdish policeman stands guard while refugees from Mosul head to Irbil, Iraq, about 217 miles north of Baghdad in the self-ruled northern Kurdish region.

2. ISIS hasn't faced much resistance.

The ISIS surge through Mosul actually came off without much fighting. When the Iraqi army fled the city, it left behind a mostly Sunni Muslim population that's distrustful and resentful of Iraq's central government. If you look at maps of the places where ISIS is advancing, it's been through Sunni areas so far.

For a group like ISIS that bills itself as defenders of Sunni Muslims, Sunni areas of Iraq are low-hanging fruit. But a great deal of Iraq falls into that category. The central government has largely treated these areas with neglect, if not worse.

3. ISIS will face a much tougher time when it reaches Shiite areas.

Aside from a few neighborhoods, the capital Baghdad is overwhelmingly Shiite and brimming with well-organized militias that often work in concert with the Shiite-led security forces. ISIS continues to carry out suicide bombings, as it has been doing for years, but will find heavy resistance in Baghdad's key areas if it attempts any kind of takeover.

Similarly, northern Iraq is run by ethnic Kurds, with their own autonomous government and highly organized Peshmerga army (Peshmerga means, roughly, "Those who face death"). Again, ISIS often launches terrorist attacks in Kurdish-controlled areas, but a takeover of any land is considered very unlikely.

There are farmlands and towns surrounding Baghdad that might be within the reach of ISIS. This includes the Sunni insurgent area that was called "the Triangle of Death" when U.S. troops fought there.

And then there's the oil, the resource that pays for nearly all of Iraq's government budget and is an important component in the world supply. The vast majority of Iraq's oil fields are in the far south, deep in Shiite territory. Southern Iraq is almost all Shiite. The oil that's in the north is mostly under Kurdish control. Some installations, though, like refineries and pipelines, run through Sunni country.

4. This isn't all about ISIS.

It's unclear how many ISIS fighters there are. Some analysts have estimated 10,000. But what we're seeing is probably a mix of many different Sunni fighters. Iraqi officials claim some of the fighters are former Baathists — the secular insurgents who had been loyal to Saddam Hussein. Others could be fighters from tribal groups who want to run the central government out of their communities.

This makes the situation more complicated, but it could offer some potential solutions. For example, there may be more moderate factions that would give up the fight if the central government could entice them with power-sharing deals. It's worth noting that the city of Ramadi, which is west of Baghdad and deep in Anbar province, is run by Sunni tribes that are, so far, not under ISIS control and still cooperate with the government.

This gets back to the pressure the U.S. has been putting on Maliki to reach out more to Sunni groups to help pacify the nation. It's far from clear, though, whether Maliki has any will to compromise.

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Re: Iraq: The big picture

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:57 pm
by planosteve
A lot of acramony on Mourning Joe today between Mika and McCain. McCain wants to fire the whole national security team. He thinks we had the war won and just had to leave a residual force for stability. Like we did in Germany, Japan, Bosnia, etc. Says the same will happen in Afghanistan if we leave completely. Want's to bring back the military "geniuses" like Petreas to figure out what to do.

Re: Iraq: The big picture

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:25 pm
by Bob Of Burleson
War was won; peace was lost. Isn't that the way it usually works?

Re: Iraq: The big picture

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:33 pm
by BillB
Bob Of Burleson wrote:War was won; peace was lost. Isn't that the way it usually works?


It was entirely predictable from the start.
Iraq wasn't worth one drop of American blood.

Re: Iraq: The big picture

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:39 pm
by planosteve
Not to brag, but I said here years before we left that when we did there would be a civil war and the govt. we installed would be overthrown.

Re: Iraq: The big picture

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:51 pm
by BillB
planosteve wrote:Not to brag, but I said here years before we left that when we did there would be a civil war and the govt. we installed would be overthrown.


Yes and that won't be the end of it.
Iran will move in to "protect" the Shiite population.
It will wind up taking Iraq over and creating a radical Islamic super state with enough oil to bring the western world to it's knees.

Removing Saddam Hussein might well be the stupidest foreign policy move this country ever made.

Re: Iraq: The big picture

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:18 pm
by GFB
Bob Of Burleson wrote:War was won; peace was lost. Isn't that the way it usually works?



No, we had the peace won, too..Iraq was well on it's way when Bush left office.

Re: Iraq: The big picture

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:22 pm
by Grassman
planosteve wrote:Not to brag, but I said here years before we left that when we did there would be a civil war and the govt. we installed would be overthrown.


You didn't say it here.

Re: Iraq: The big picture

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:24 pm
by planosteve
GFB wrote:
Bob Of Burleson wrote:War was won; peace was lost. Isn't that the way it usually works?



No, we had the peace won, too..Iraq was well on it's way when Bush left office.

Bush didn't know Shitte from shinola.

Re: Iraq: The big picture

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:33 pm
by GFB
planosteve wrote:
GFB wrote:
Bob Of Burleson wrote:War was won; peace was lost. Isn't that the way it usually works?



No, we had the peace won, too..Iraq was well on it's way when Bush left office.

Bush didn't know Shitte from shinola.


He knew "won" vs "lost".

Re: Iraq: The big picture

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:28 pm
by Bob Of Burleson
Iraq's Maliki was not our stooge. He was elected to office by the majority Shiites and he proceeded to pack the government with Shiites to the exclusion of the minority Sunnis. That's what's chapping them now.