Help the Kleins , Melisas Sweet Cakes

[ralph]

'Continue to GIVE' website --- https://www.continuetogive.com/4811392 --- interesting as Arron Klein is talking that he is being shook down and destroyed by 'oregons' Administrative Law rather than 'Constitutional Law' . Good to see the fight continuing or just getting started . Hope that I am not breaking any rules by posting this site , I will contribute small money , hope that others can also contribute money !!

[millergrovesue]

See, I told you this would happen. No surprise here. And the lawbreakers will not get a penny from me.

[ralph]

nice looking American family , what do they got , 5 kids , all looking to stay off welfare and out of the clutches of a tyrannical state of 'ory gun' and its lefties . Old man and lady want to run their own business , not caving to tyranny , I'll help the Freedom Fighters , hope that others will help them with as big or small a money contribution that they can afford .

[Castle Doctrine]

The only thing I have for them is this thought...if you don't like Oregon's laws there are many states with laws more to your liking. Stop scamming and move somewhere else.

[millergrovesue]

The only thing I have for them is this thought...if you don't like Oregon's laws there are many states with laws more to your liking. Stop scamming and move somewhere else.

That's what I said the other day. Don't think anyone is forcing them to live in Oregon.

[ralph]

I donated , Time to fight the lefties , at least this Sweetcakes deal and Trump on the illegal aliens , sanctuary cities , illegal alien murderers , rapists , drunk drivers , tyranny are all related to Americans losing Freedom . Hopefully Americans are waking up to whats happening in America .

[Sangersteve]

I just want to know a couple of things. Why are gay rights more important than religious rights.

This couple had been served by the baker in the past, why couldn't they have respected the convictions of the baker to not participate in the wedding .

The couple may have been aware that the baker would refuse to do a wedding cake and planned the lawsuit in advance. The complaint to the DOJ came the same day the baker refused the order, coincidence? I have never tried to file a DOJ complaint, but it seems unlikely all the hoops could be jumped through in a single work day. Think about it this way at 8 am in Oregon it's 11 am in DC, so you have 5 hours to get all the stuff done.

As to the bakers having to move, why couldn't the lesbians found a willing baker?

Also interesting to note the court found that one of the lesbian's was hostile and overstated the facts, the court knew this because she was not present during the refusal.

Also note that this all occurred before gay marriage was the law of the land.

[GFB]

I just want to know a couple of things. Why are gay rights more important than religious rights.

This couple had been served by the baker in the past, why couldn't they have respected the convictions of the baker to not participate in the wedding .

The couple may have been aware that the baker would refuse to do a wedding cake and planned the lawsuit in advance. The complaint to the DOJ came the same day the baker refused the order, coincidence? I have never tried to file a DOJ complaint, but it seems unlikely all the hoops could be jumped through in a single work day. Think about it this way at 8 am in Oregon it's 11 am in DC, so you have 5 hours to get all the stuff done.

As to the bakers having to move, why couldn't the lesbians found a willing baker?

Also interesting to note the court found that one of the lesbian's was hostile and overstated the facts, the court knew this because she was not present during the refusal.

Also note that this all occurred before gay marriage was the law of the land.

The war on Christianity has been stepped up several notches lately.

Unless Christians decide to surrender en masse, and accept that their time has passed, and that there is no place for religious people in America's future..I see no where for this to go other than Civil War.

The left never rests, and is never satisfied..they are never happy.

[ralph]

yep , that's it , why couldn't the lesbians find a willing baker down the street ?? As regards the pre staging , sure , why not , lesbians knew the bakers , knew their attitudes just in casual conversation perhaps or a comment heard . Maybe figured that a lawsuit with a payoff would fund a nice 'hornymoon' !!

[millergrovesue]

The war on Christianity has been stepped up several notches lately.

Unless Christians decide to surrender en masse, and accept that their time has passed, and that there is no place for religious people in America's future..I see no where for this to go other than Civil War.

The left never rests, and is never satisfied..they are never happy.

Not all Christians feel there is a war against us. Just the ones you listen to.

And for the thousandth time, this issue is not about sexual orientation. It's about a business making a conscious decision to break an Oregon law. What is so hard to understand about that?

[ralph]

law needs to be rescinded or messed with and done away with . Until then , 'Mellisas Sweetcakes' needs to be helped . I put a link on top of page / thread , if it is still there it is easy to donate to Mellisas Sweetcakes'

[millergrovesue]

law needs to be rescinded or messed with and done away with . Until then , 'Mellisas Sweetcakes' needs to be helped . I put a link on top of page / thread , if it is still there it is easy to donate to Mellisas Sweetcakes'

I'd say what to do about the law, if anything, is the business of Oregonians.

[ralph]

nope , disagree , sick of Americans taking it in the shorts because of lefty Oregon types, lefties in Texas or anywhere in the USA . Many Americans advocate resistance and I don't mind seeing that resistance ALL over the USA . Teach the young as they will inherit what the lefties are building !! And , git those Donations , small and large into Melisas Sweetcakes , see my link in the first post that gives a donation site to help them out !! [I think] Someone once said , united we stand , divided we fall , best to be united in issues like this .

[bodine]

The only thing I have for them is this thought...if you don't like Oregon's laws there are many states with laws more to your liking. Stop scamming and move somewhere else.

That's what I said the other day. Don't think anyone is forcing them to live in Oregon.

Would folks be donating money if they had chosen not to pay their franchise taxes? Or collect sales taxes? Or submit to health and safety inspections?

Did they make wedding cakes for adulterers or fornicators? Fat people? Folks that cuss? All of those folks are sinners, too. Seems to me if you select one group of sinners to refuse service to, you ought to refuse service to all of them...

[BigTex]

This whole deal just tells me there are more lawyers than bakers in Oregon.

[ralph]

think that the problem is that the lesbians made it known that they were homosexuals looking for a cake to celebrate their homo wedding and that's the rub because the Kleins as Christians won't violate their religion by serving , taking part in a homo wedding ceremony . I guess that the same MIGHT happen if some fornicators came by looking for the Christian bakers to help them celebrate their fornication party , orgy or happy adultery commemoration ceremony .

[GFB]

Not sure those call for a cake.

[BillB]

The only thing I have for them is this thought...if you don't like Oregon's laws there are many states with laws more to your liking. Stop scamming and move somewhere else.

That's what I said the other day. Don't think anyone is forcing them to live in Oregon.

No one was forcing Rosa Parks to live in Georgia.

[jellowrestling]

law needs to be rescinded or messed with and done away with . Until then , 'Mellisas Sweetcakes' needs to be helped . I put a link on top of page / thread , if it is still there it is easy to donate to Mellisas Sweetcakes'

I'd say what to do about the law, if anything, is the business of Oregonians.

But that's not how things work any more, and it's certainly not how "Progressives" work. They bus in paid agitators from the outside to exert pressure. That's certainly what happened with Trayvon Martin, Ferguson, Baltimore, etc...

[ralph]

Not sure those call for a cake.

well , I could see it happening Greg , go in a Christian bake shop , tell the Christian baker that you want a 'Happy Fornication' , or Adultery Commemorative cake for your next orgy . Christian bakers refuse and then look for a payoff in the courts .