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Dealing with the classroom bully

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:59 am
by LibraryLady
Haven't we all wanted to do this at one time or another?

http://i.imgur.com/cDLnOPv.gifv

Re: Dealing with the classroom bully

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:06 am
by ralph
looks like common sense to me , similar might have been done when I was in school . Course in my time it probably would've been figured out out by the flagpole or behind the library . Good for the kid !!

Re: Dealing with the classroom bully

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:26 am
by ann jusko
It's probably the only way to deal with a bully. The psycho babble hasn't helped one little bit. Twice my older son went after a bully. Not because he was bullied but once, a kid on the bus called my younger daughter a "hoe". She was in kindergarten and had no idea what that meant. Mike put the kid's head through the school bus window. I went up to the school early the next morning. Mr. Cathy (prin.) said "Janey (bus driver) has already been in to tell me." I was offering to pay for the window...and it completely blew my mind. No school action (or reaction) for our son. However, Hubs and I weren't pleased so he did have consequences at home. Then at the county fair, our rural carrier (a constable) came to the booth I was working and told me Mike had been in a fight. "Omg! Did you break it up?" No, Mike wasn't losing and that kid needed it." The reason: Mike found out the kid was demanding our young son bring him a silver dollar every day. Younger son was small and the kid was 4 years older. My father had given all the kids silver dollars for their banks. Apparently, the younger son took one to school for show and tell. Since older ones weren't supposed to be in the elementary part of the building, he must have shown it outside, too. And yes, the kid ended up in the pen for something like 6 years. But he's not in Rains County anymore.

Re: Dealing with the classroom bully

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:40 am
by BigTex
Of course we know live in a zero tolerance world. I have had to caution my son not to retaliate if he was the target of a bully because he was subject to suspension. Even if he was defending himself.

That's unfortunate, because as the video shows, the best way to deal with a bully is to take him (or her) out.

Re: Dealing with the classroom bully

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:02 am
by millergrovesue
I beat up 2 neighborhood bullies, on separate occasions, when I was a little kid. One was a girl the other a boy. After beating up the boy I was the neighborhood hero for a long time. It felt really good! :) I didn't get in trouble because adults figured we could settle our own squabbles in our own way....and they probably never knew about it.

Re: Dealing with the classroom bully

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:58 am
by BigTex
This is where we are.

At the beginning of the school year, parents sign an acknowledgement that they have read the student handbook and understand its contents, which includes a zero tolerance policy on fighting. So they can't come back at the school later when their kid is suspended for fighting. Even if it is self-defense.

AND IF THAT WEREN'T ENOUGH . . .

Kids risk being suspended if they engage in fighting off school grounds/off school hours.

This is where we are.

Re: Dealing with the classroom bully

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:36 am
by bodine
Both of my kids knew if they defended themselves, they were OK by me. My son broke up a fight by bear hugging the assailant and carrying him to a coach's classroom. He got called to the principal's office after the video of the fight was reviewed. She bought him lunch; wings and all the trimmings...

Re: Dealing with the classroom bully

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:33 pm
by millergrovesue
bodine wrote:Both of my kids knew if they defended themselves, they were OK by me. My son broke up a fight by bear hugging the assailant and carrying him to a coach's classroom. He got called to the principal's office after the video of the fight was reviewed. She bought him lunch; wings and all the trimmings...


Love it!

Re: Dealing with the classroom bully

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:21 pm
by jellowrestling
I have posted this story a couple of times in the past, so I'll just do the Reader's Digest version:

A bully constantly picked on him for years in elementary school. The last week of 6th-grade, the bully grabbed my son by the shirt with both hands, about chest high. My son said, "You need to let go immediately, or you will regret it." So, the bully took a swing at Jello Jr., who blocked the punch, wailed on him with five or six quick punches to the head, then slammed the bully's head into a brick wall 5 or 6 times. Perhaps Jello Jr. should have said, "You need to let go immediately, or I will demonstrate why I have a Black Belt in Taekwondo".

In any case, the assistant principal was furious with the boys for fighting, so he took them to the principal's office. The principal quietly said to Jello Jr., "JJ, now you know this behavior is unacceptable, right?" Jello Jr, nodded and said, "Yes, sir". Then he turned to The Bully and said, "Didn't expect him to do that, did you?" Then he dismissed them back to class.

Later, I bought Jello Jr some ice cream. No one ever bothered Jello Jr again.

Re: Dealing with the classroom bully

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:31 pm
by jellowrestling
BigTex wrote:This is where we are.

At the beginning of the school year, parents sign an acknowledgement that they have read the student handbook and understand its contents, which includes a zero tolerance policy on fighting. So they can't come back at the school later when their kid is suspended for fighting. Even if it is self-defense.

AND IF THAT WEREN'T ENOUGH . . .

Kids risk being suspended if they engage in fighting off school grounds/off school hours.

This is where we are.

At Trinity High School, the person who initiates violence is punished. The person who defends himself is exonerated. Having 84 cameras helps to determine which is which. This policy has reduced fights to only a handful each year. With "zero tolerance", bullies terrorize the good kids, who live in fear of being attacked, then suspended for being attacked. At Trinity, when cowardly bullies attack, they often get a beat-down, then a suspension. At zero-tolerance schools, kids are warned that there is zero-tolerance, and anyone who participates in a fight will be punished. At THS, kids are warned that anyone who starts a fight will be sent to alternative school, often for 30-60 days. In most cases, fights are between recent transfers.

Re: Dealing with the classroom bully

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:35 am
by millergrovesue
Sounds like Trinity has it right. Where is it?

Re: Dealing with the classroom bully

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:43 am
by grouchy
Self defense is a good thing.

Re: Dealing with the classroom bully

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:11 am
by Gigi
millergrovesue wrote:Sounds like Trinity has it right. Where is it?

Euless. It is in the H.E.B. school district.

Re: Dealing with the classroom bully

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:12 am
by millergrovesue
Thanks, Gigi. How come their administration is allowed to be so sane and reasonable?

Re: Dealing with the classroom bully

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:13 am
by BigTex
Of course, who's going to bully the Tongans?

Re: Dealing with the classroom bully

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:23 am
by millergrovesue
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What the heck is a Tongan?

I've mentioned before that my high school, Austin High, mascot was Mr. Maroo. We were the maroons. Wouldn't you be terrified to be facing these guys on the football field?

Re: Dealing with the classroom bully

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:09 pm
by jellowrestling
BigTex wrote:Of course, who's going to bully the Tongans?

Not the Katrina kids, that's for sure. FWIW, the Tongans are generally peacemakers, especially the boys.

Re: Dealing with the classroom bully

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:12 pm
by jellowrestling
Tongans are South Pacific Islanders. Large, fast-moving (on a football field) kids.

Re: Dealing with the classroom bully

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:13 pm
by millergrovesue
Thanks. That was the only reference to Tongan I saw. Lots of Tongans in the HEB area?

Re: Dealing with the classroom bully

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:52 pm
by jellowrestling
millergrovesue wrote:Thanks. That was the only reference to Tongan I saw. Lots of Tongans in the HEB area?

Pretty fair number, especially in Euless. Trinity typically has about 80-100 (10-12)