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Arizona newspaper editor: Not wasting ink on climate deniers

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:46 am
by BigTex
June 08, 2014 5:00 am • By RANDY WILSON Daily Sun Editor

When is a scientific question settled to the point that entertaining further debate becomes not only a waste of precious newsprint but also a diversion from finding a solution to the problems raised by the answer to the question?

Earlier in my journalism career I had to confront this question over whether smoking causes cancer. I worked in Annapolis, Md., and my beat included the tobacco farms of southern Anne Arundel County. At the time, the cigarette companies denied the link and only begrudgingly put warning labels on their packaging. Because smoking was seen as a personal choice (secondhand smoke and public smoking bans were not yet on the health policy radar), I kept my conclusions to myself and instead chatted up the farmers about yields and leaf blight.

But human-caused climate change has implications far beyond personal vices. To dispute the science as either fundamentally flawed or a vast conspiracy among climate scientists to provide job security until their retirement simply hasn’t withstood scrutiny. There does seem room to debate the extreme predictions by some scientists, but the basic idea that human activities are accelerating the pace of global warming in an unsustainable way enjoys the same scientific consensus as the finding that smoking causes cancer.

A local newspaper, however, needs to reflect its community in the conversations it hosts. But in the case of Flagstaff, a university town with an environmental IQ far above average, there aren’t many climate change deniers willing to stick their heads up and take the inevitable flak. Yes, journalism is supposed to give voice to the powerless, but that’s not the same as allowing a small minority to filibuster what is arguably the most pressing problem on the planet. Unlike defeating a personal vice, tackling climate change will take collective, global action that deniers don’t seem willing to contemplate, much less engage.

Does denying a seat at the journalistic table to climate change deniers amount to censorship and political correctness, in the sense that unpopular opinions are being silenced? As I am wont to tell some letter writers, you are entitled to your opinions, but not your facts. Let’s save our breath and get on with saving the planet.

Re: Arizona newspaper editor: Not wasting ink on climate den

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:14 am
by GRANDPA
" . . . you are entitled to your opinions, but not your facts . . . " You should take your own advice, sir

Re: Arizona newspaper editor: Not wasting ink on climate den

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:23 am
by Mark
Dear Randy Wilson,

You, sir, are an idiot.

Re: Arizona newspaper editor: Not wasting ink on climate den

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:29 am
by planosteve
Global warming? What global warming? What's he talking about?

Re: Arizona newspaper editor: Not wasting ink on climate den

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:31 am
by GFB
planosteve wrote:Global warming? What global warming? What's he talking about?


No..we changed it to "global climate change" when the warming stopped.

Re: Arizona newspaper editor: Not wasting ink on climate den

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:39 am
by planosteve
GFB wrote:
planosteve wrote:Global warming? What global warming? What's he talking about?


No..we changed it to "global climate change" when the warming stopped.


"the basic idea that human activities are accelerating the pace of global warming in an unsustainable way enjoys the same scientific consensus as the finding that smoking causes cancer."

Re: Arizona newspaper editor: Not wasting ink on climate den

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:31 pm
by WonderMonkey
There is zero doubt that the climate change acceleration (beyond what we were expecting) is happening. Anything less is political denial. What the question comes down to is how much influence do humans have on this change. That is the only question that is valid.

Re: Arizona newspaper editor: Not wasting ink on climate den

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:55 pm
by GFB
WonderMonkey wrote:There is zero doubt that the climate change acceleration (beyond what we were expecting) is happening. Anything less is political denial. What the question comes down to is how much influence do humans have on this change. That is the only question that is valid.


What do you offer as evidence?

Re: Arizona newspaper editor: Not wasting ink on climate den

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:56 pm
by GFB
..for your "zero doubt."

Re: Arizona newspaper editor: Not wasting ink on climate den

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:23 pm
by GFB
GFB wrote:
WonderMonkey wrote:There is zero doubt that the climate change acceleration (beyond what we were expecting) is happening. Anything less is political denial. What the question comes down to is how much influence do humans have on this change. That is the only question that is valid.


What do you offer as evidence?



WHAT HAPPENED???

Re: Arizona newspaper editor: Not wasting ink on climate den

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:31 pm
by Dancer
WonderMonkey wrote:There is zero doubt that the climate change acceleration (beyond what we were expecting) is happening. Anything less is political denial. What the question comes down to is how much influence do humans have on this change. That is the only question that is valid.

My opinion is. NO INFLUENCE AT ALL! Seems to get my point across, I hope.

Re: Arizona newspaper editor: Not wasting ink on climate den

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:57 pm
by Sangersteve
Special to Climate Depot:

By Lord Christopher Monckton

Seventeen and a half years. Not a flicker of global warming. The RSS satellite record, the first of the five global-temperature datasets to report its February value, shows a zero trend for an impressive 210 months.

The graph below shows no global warming at all for 17 years 6 months:

Re: Arizona newspaper editor: Not wasting ink on climate den

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:46 pm
by Bob Of Burleson
Sangersteve wrote:Special to Climate Depot:

By Lord Christopher Monckton

Seventeen and a half years. Not a flicker of global warming. The RSS satellite record, the first of the five global-temperature datasets to report its February value, shows a zero trend for an impressive 210 months.

The graph below shows no global warming at all for 17 years 6 months:


That's atmosphere, right? What happens when you include the oceans' temperatures?

Re: Arizona newspaper editor: Not wasting ink on climate den

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:12 pm
by Mark
Once again, global warming is a political position, not a legitimate scientific conclusion.