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Just one man's opinion

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:18 pm
by LibraryLady
but he has created a formidable list........

His list is 14 things the facist governments of the 1930-40s had in common.
This was written in 2003.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4113.htm

Re: Just one man's opinion

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:55 pm
by ralph
regarding number 1 . --------------- I like nationalism as far as I understand it . Pride in country , secure borders , strongest military in the world . Lapel pins , bunting and flags do nothing for me . Things that are foreign , I don't like them in the USA and I mostly mean the flood of imported immigrants that the USA has experienced since the 70s when the USA population was 'about' 200 million in the 1970 census to what it is now [2010] when it was 310 million not counting illegal aliens . Nowadays there are probably 330 million not counting illegal aliens . Foreign and foreigners outside the USA are fine Library Lady !!

Re: Just one man's opinion

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:01 pm
by ralph
number 2 , disdain for human rights , all that means is what some elite group of internationalists , probably the 'un' says what human rights are . That aside , human rights in the USA are fine and dandy aren't they ??

Re: Just one man's opinion

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:13 pm
by ralph
number 4 military and militarism , Military and borders are probably 2 of the most important things a country can have , imo !!

Re: Just one man's opinion

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:30 pm
by GFB
None of those are the defining characteristic.

What makes Fascism, besides a dictator..is the government owns or controls all businesses.

Re: Just one man's opinion

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:36 pm
by planosteve
GFB wrote:None of those are the defining characteristic.

What makes Fascism, besides a dictator..is the government owns or controls all businesses.

Owns is socialism, controls is fascism

Re: Just one man's opinion

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:27 pm
by GFB
planosteve wrote:
GFB wrote:None of those are the defining characteristic.

What makes Fascism, besides a dictator..is the government owns or controls all businesses.

Owns is socialism, controls is fascism



Yeah, whatever.

Point is..liberalism is the modern day fascism.

The government must control everything.

Re: Just one man's opinion

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:32 pm
by planosteve
GFB wrote:
planosteve wrote:
GFB wrote:None of those are the defining characteristic.

What makes Fascism, besides a dictator..is the government owns or controls all businesses.

Owns is socialism, controls is fascism



Yeah, whatever.

Point is..liberalism is the modern day fascism.

The government must control everything.

2/3 of the Federal govt. is controlled by Republcans.

Re: Just one man's opinion

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:37 pm
by GFB
planosteve wrote:
GFB wrote:
planosteve wrote:
What makes Fascism, besides a dictator..is the government owns or controls all businesses.

Owns is socialism, controls is fascism



Yeah, whatever.

Point is..liberalism is the modern day fascism.

The government must control everything.

2/3 of the Federal govt. is controlled by Republcans.

I'm not defining the realities of government.

I'm relating fascism to the ideology of liberalism..regardless of who controls what.

Re: Just one man's opinion

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:42 am
by jellowrestling
planosteve wrote:2/3 of the Federal govt. is controlled by Republcans.

Bureaucrats run most of the government, and they tend to be Progressives/liberals.

Re: Just one man's opinion

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 3:10 pm
by LibraryLady2
Time to review the list.........

Re: Just one man's opinion

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 3:22 pm
by Red Oak
:lol:

Re: Just one man's opinion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:35 am
by planosteve
jellowrestling wrote:
planosteve wrote:2/3 of the Federal govt. is controlled by Republcans.

Bureaucrats run most of the government, and they tend to be Progressives/liberals.

Yeah, but....they "operate" it. They don't "run" it by design. Not unless the leadership is weak or ineffective.

Re: Just one man's opinion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:10 pm
by jellowrestling
planosteve wrote:
jellowrestling wrote:
planosteve wrote:2/3 of the Federal govt. is controlled by Republcans.

Bureaucrats run most of the government, and they tend to be Progressives/liberals.

Yeah, but....they "operate" it. They don't "run" it by design. Not unless the leadership is weak or ineffective.

They've been "running" it for the last eight years. That's why they hate Trump.

Re: Just one man's opinion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:53 pm
by Bob Of Burleson
Not me. I don't like him because he's an obnoxious blowhard.

Re: Just one man's opinion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:03 pm
by GFB
Bob Of Burleson wrote:Not me. I don't like him because he's an obnoxious blowhard.


Stick around..he's just warmin' up.

Re: Just one man's opinion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:07 pm
by Bob Of Burleson
That's just what I'm afraid of. :-)

Re: Just one man's opinion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:18 pm
by Red Oak
When BoB praises Trump we will then know Trump is off track.

Re: Just one man's opinion

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:40 pm
by jellowrestling
Most of those apply to FDR's reign.

Re: Just one man's opinion

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:02 am
by planosteve
There's a big one missing from the list. Fiat money. Once a govt. can create money out of thin air, it's going to spend the country into oblivion. And it has. It just hasn't collapsed yet. But, it will. Only question is when. Stockman says it's already overdue. Others think it's about 1928 and speculators will make a fortune in the next several years. I don't know which is right.