D-Dat 75th anniversary today

[glenn/dallas]

D-Day June 6, 1944 75 years ago today

The Normandy landings were the landing operations on Tuesday, 6 June 1944 of the Allied invasion of Normandy in Operation Overlord during World War II. Codenamed Operation Neptune and often referred to as D-Day, it was the largest seaborne invasion in history.


I hope some of us say an additional prayer today for the almost 10,000 deaths of the six countries that made up the Allied forces in the first 24 hours of the invasion. Supreme Commander Eisehower new the casualties would be extremely high, but it was the price to be paid to stop Hitler and his Nazi's.

A sad day in history.

[glenn/dallas]

D-Day June 6, 1944 75 years ago today

The Normandy landings were the landing operations on Tuesday, 6 June 1944 of the Allied invasion of Normandy in Operation Overlord during World War II. Codenamed Operation Neptune and often referred to as D-Day, it was the largest seaborne invasion in history.


I hope some of us say an additional prayer today for the almost 10,000 deaths of the six countries that made up the Allied forces in the first 24 hours of the invasion. Supreme Commander Eisehower new the casualties would be extremely high, but it was the price to be paid to stop Hitler and his Nazi's.

A sad day in history.

[John in Plano]

A friend's dad parachuted in on D Day, a couple weeks later he lost part of his foot to a landmine somewhere in France.

[GFB]

Not such a big day at my house. My father had already been over there for nearly two years.

[John in Plano]

Where in Europe ?

My dad was flying out of England in 1944, not sure if he was there during D Day, I'll ask him. Mom's brother was flying out of N Africa in June of 1944.

[GFB]

My father trained in North Africa..then started in Sicily, and walked it all the way up Italy.

[GFB]

After Germany fell, he stayed in Europe for 7 more months..tank detail training for the invasion of Japan.

They sent him home after Hiroshima and Nagasaki..two very happy events at my house.

[grouchy]

Where in Europe ?

My dad was flying out of England in 1944, not sure if he was there during D Day, I'll ask him. Mom's brother was flying out of N Africa in June of 1944.

My dad was in the 8th Air Force. Waist gunner on B17's.

[John in Plano]

Where in Europe ?

My dad was flying out of England in 1944, not sure if he was there during D Day, I'll ask him. Mom's brother was flying out of N Africa in June of 1944.

My dad was in the 8th Air Force. Waist gunner on B17's.

Pop was a B17 G pilot, 305 th bomb group. My uncle was a navigator also on a B 17.

[planosteve]

Here's some good WWII books.

Alperovitz, Gar. The Decision to Use the Atomic Bomb Comprehensive study that shows dropping the atomic bombs was not needed to bring about Japanese surrender.

Baker, Nicholson Human Smoke: The Beginnings of World War II, the End of Civilization Stresses the violations of the norms of civilized war in World War II, with full attention to the role of Winston Churchill.

Beard, Charles A. President Roosevelt and the Coming of the War, 1941 Beard, one of the foremost twentieth-century American historians, argues that Roosevelt provoked the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

Buchanan, Patrick J.Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War. Argues that the British guarantee to Poland in March 1939 was a mistake, because there was no feasible means of fulfilling it.

Chamberlin, William H., America’s Second Crusade A highly critical account of American policy during World War I. America failed to learn the lesson of intervention in World War I.

Cowling, Maurice, The Impact of Hitler A detailed study of British cabinet politics in the 1930s, countering the view that Chamberlain sought peace at any price with Hitler.

Doenecke, Justus Storm on the Horizon: The Challenge to American Intervention, 1939-1941. A detailed study of the American anti-war movement, showing the diversity of arguments used to oppose Roosevelt’s bellicose policies.

Fussell, Paul. Wartime: Understanding and Behavior in the Second World War Vivid portrayal of the deleterious effects of the war on human psychology and behavior. Refutes the romanticized picture of the “good war.”

Garrett, Garet. Garrett, a leading figure of the Old Right, argued that coming to the aid of the Allies would weaken America. We should concentrate on home defense.

Glaser, Kurt, Czecho-Slovakia, A Critical History. A good account of the minorities problem in Czechoslovakia. Emphasizes the unrealistic policies of the Beneš government.

Greaves, Bettina, Pearl Harbor: The Seeds and Fruits of Infamy. A detailed account of Roosevelt and Pearl Harbor, based on the research of Percy Greaves.

Hoover, Herbert. Freedom Betrayed. A very detailed account of Roosevelt’s foreign policy by his predecessor in the White House. Based on careful documentation.

Jaksch, Wenzel, Europe’s Road to Potsdam. An account of the Sudeten situation in the 1930s, critical of Czech policies under Beneš. The author was head of the Sudeten Social Democrats.

Kirschbaum, Joseph M. Slovakia: Nation at the Crossroads of Central Europe. An informed account of Slovak policies in the 1930s. Good on the breakup of the Czech state after the Munich Conference.

Klein, Burton H. Germany’s Economic Preparations for War. Argues that Germany in the 1930s did not plan for a long war. The author is a leading Chicago School economist.

Kubek, Anthony, How the Far East Was Lost. The first chapter, based on pioneering work by Stephen H. Johnsson, shows the influence of pro-Communist officials in pushing for US provocation of Japan before Pearl Harbor.

Mahl, Thomas E. Desperate Deception : British Cover Operations in the United States. 1939-1944 An account of British propaganda and intelligence activities aimed at involving America on the side of Britain in the war.

Morgenstern, George. Pearl Harbor: The Story of the Secret War One of the first revisionist studies of Pearl Harbor and still one of the best. Highly detailed and very well written.

Neilson, Francis, The Churchill Legend. Includes a devastating analysis of Churchill’s multi-volume history of the war.

Newman, Simon March 1939: The British Guarantee to Poland British policy under Chamberlain was not based on weakness
but on a long term strategy of confronting Hitler.

Raico, Ralph, Great Wars and Great Leaders. Written by a great classical liberal historian, the book includes a mordant account of Winston Churchill.

Russett, Bruce, No Clear and Present Danger. Argues that the prospect of an Axis dominated Europe failed to pose a sufficient threat to the United States to justify American intervention

Sanborn, Frederic, Design for War. Contains material on the US efforts to provoke a Japanese attack not readily available elsewhere. The author was a distinguished international lawyer.

Sargent, Porter, Getting US Into War. Stresses the role of British propaganda in pushing America toward war.

Schroeder, Paul, Axis Alliance and Japanese-American Realtions 1941. Contends that America foreign policy toward Japan was unduly rigid.

[GFB]

Thanks for that deeply anti American list.

[planosteve]

Thanks for that deeply anti American list.

The truth hurts. If we hadn't gone over there to bail out that cigar smoking Bozo there would have been no WWII. Germany is a far more rational county than England ever was. They got rid of their king a long time ago.

[GFB]

Thanks for that deeply anti American list.

The truth hurts. If we hadn't gone over there to bail out that cigar smoking Bozo there would have been no WWII. Germany is a far more rational county than England ever was. They got rid of their king a long time ago.

That was really dumb.

[John in Plano]

Thanks for that deeply anti American list.

The truth hurts. If we hadn't gone over there to bail out that cigar smoking Bozo there would have been no WWII. Germany is a far more rational county than England ever was. They got rid of their king a long time ago.

That was really dumb.

Yep no one held a gun to Hitler's head and forced Germany to declare war on the United States.

[bodine]

My daughter-in-law's grandfather is being buried today, a 98 year old veteran of campaigns in North Africa and Italy. He was truly representative of the Greatest Generation. RIP, Warren, RIP.

[planosteve]

The truth hurts. If we hadn't gone over there to bail out that cigar smoking Bozo there would have been no WWII. Germany is a far more rational county than England ever was. They got rid of their king a long time ago.

That was really dumb.

Yep no one held a gun to Hitler's head and forced Germany to declare war on the United States.

We don't even bother to declare war anymore. We just go and attack any country we feel like.

[GFB]

That was really dumb.

Yep no one held a gun to Hitler's head and forced Germany to declare war on the United States.

We don't even bother to declare war anymore. We just go and attack any country we feel like.

Ok, first you said we shouldn’t have gone to war with Germany..even though they declared war on us.

Now, you’re saying..those were the good old days of “declarations of war”..and NOW we’re bad guys because we don’t.

[glenn/dallas]

I'll mention no name, but in my opinion we have a poster who is an absolute basket case. All mouth, no sense.

[planosteve]

And what's with all these old farts running around with their "VETERAN" ball caps. I see them all the time. Who cares? Is the only thing they have to be proud about in their life is that they got drafted? Haven't they ever heard of bone spurs?

[glenn/dallas]

And what's with all these old farts running around with their "VETERAN" ball caps. I see them all the time. Who cares? Is the only thing they have to be proud about in their life is that they got drafted? Haven't they ever heard of bone spurs?

I can only speak for myself, I signed up for the USN a year out of high school 1962, about 15 months later I was in Vietnam dodging gunfire, watching where I took a step. As I said, I, as many oythers, not at all most, was not drafted.I wear my Vietnam call cap to honor the fallen, and a number of my friends who didnt make it home. I wore my Vietnam ball cap to remind myself, as well as others the sacrifice we sometimes must pay for a free country.

I am an "old fart" as you say but I dont run around.
I wonder if you were a draft dodger, if not, what branch of the service were you in?

I have many many things i am very proud of, but I wont share that with you. "who cares" obviousely not you


What a jerk planosteve must be. NOTE: Today is D-Day, the day over 10,000 Americans died for a free America