This is interesting

[rusty]

A lot of people like to blame Democrats for crime in their major cities. Of course that stands to reason because most major cities are blue. More people more crime, and a higher percentage of crime comes with large populations. This goes without saying.

But maybe we should praise the Democrats for having the majority of "safest" cities as well.

[Sangersteve]

Got a link for that?

[jellowrestling]

Yeah, Kiplinger has a completely different list.

1. Frisco, Texas Frisco, Texas, part of the Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex has been ranked the number 1 safest city to live in the U.S. ...

2. McKinney, Texas Second on the list is McKinney, Texas, neighboring Frisco to the east and about 32 miles north of Dallas. ...

3. McAllen, Texas ...

4. Santa Clarita, California ...

5. Plano, Texas

and the bottom five:

1. Baton Rouge, Louisiana

2. New Orleans, Louisiana

3. Orlando, Florida

4. Milwaukee, Wisconsin

5. St. Louis, Missouri


https://www.kiplinger.com/real-estate/p ... 2C%20Texas

[rusty]

Got a link for that?

Forbes

[rusty]

Yeah, Kiplinger has a completely different list.

1. Frisco, Texas Frisco, Texas, part of the Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex has been ranked the number 1 safest city to live in the U.S. ...

2. McKinney, Texas Second on the list is McKinney, Texas, neighboring Frisco to the east and about 32 miles north of Dallas. ...

3. McAllen, Texas ...

4. Santa Clarita, California ...

5. Plano, Texas

and the bottom five:

1. Baton Rouge, Louisiana

2. New Orleans, Louisiana

3. Orlando, Florida

4. Milwaukee, Wisconsin

5. St. Louis, Missouri


https://www.kiplinger.com/real-estate/p ... 2C%20Texas

The Forbes list was for cities with a population of 300k +. Most of the cities on the Kiplinger list are less than that.

[planosteve]

I lived in Plano about a mile from Frisco and from McKinney.

[jellowrestling]

Yeah, Kiplinger has a completely different list.

1. Frisco, Texas Frisco, Texas, part of the Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex has been ranked the number 1 safest city to live in the U.S. ...

2. McKinney, Texas Second on the list is McKinney, Texas, neighboring Frisco to the east and about 32 miles north of Dallas. ...

3. McAllen, Texas ...

4. Santa Clarita, California ...

5. Plano, Texas

and the bottom five:

1. Baton Rouge, Louisiana

2. New Orleans, Louisiana

3. Orlando, Florida

4. Milwaukee, Wisconsin

5. St. Louis, Missouri


https://www.kiplinger.com/real-estate/p ... 2C%20Texas

The Forbes list was for cities with a population of 300k +. Most of the cities on the Kiplinger list are less than that.

Fair enough, but all of the Bottom 5 hellholes are Deep Blue, and they are all over 300,000.

[Kiamichi]

Unless a dangerous crime ranking is based solely on the homicide rate per capita--the only reliable official crime statistic--it is not worth the paper it is printed on.

[rusty]

Unless a dangerous crime ranking is based solely on the homicide rate per capita--the only reliable official crime statistic--it is not worth the paper it is printed on.

Why?

[jellowrestling]

Unless a dangerous crime ranking is based solely on the homicide rate per capita--the only reliable official crime statistic--it is not worth the paper it is printed on.

Why?

I'm not Mark, but it's because of the reason he stated: homicide is the only reliable official crime statistic. Other categories are too open to manipulation, interpretation, misreporting and fraud. It's difficult to hide a homicide.

[rusty]

Unless a dangerous crime ranking is based solely on the homicide rate per capita--the only reliable official crime statistic--it is not worth the paper it is printed on.

Why?

I'm not Mark, but it's because of the reason he stated: homicide is the only reliable official crime statistic. Other categories are too open to manipulation, interpretation, misreporting and fraud. It's difficult to hide a homicide.

Who's Mark, and why did you state that you weren't him?

[jellowrestling]

Why?

I'm not Mark, but it's because of the reason he stated: homicide is the only reliable official crime statistic. Other categories are too open to manipulation, interpretation, misreporting and fraud. It's difficult to hide a homicide.

Who's Mark, and why did you state that you weren't him?

Should have said, "Kiamichi". But you knew that.

[rusty]

I'm not Mark, but it's because of the reason he stated: homicide is the only reliable official crime statistic. Other categories are too open to manipulation, interpretation, misreporting and fraud. It's difficult to hide a homicide.

Who's Mark, and why did you state that you weren't him?

Should have said, "Kiamichi". But you knew that.

[rusty]

Unless a dangerous crime ranking is based solely on the homicide rate per capita--the only reliable official crime statistic--it is not worth the paper it is printed on.

Why?

I'm not Mark, but it's because of the reason he stated: homicide is the only reliable official crime statistic. Other categories are too open to manipulation, interpretation, misreporting and fraud. It's difficult to hide a homicide.

so non-lethal gunshot wounds, stab wounds, baseball bats to the head shouldn't count toward dangerous crime statistics?

I would imagine someone who was stabbed or shot and lived to talk about would disagree with that premise. I'm sure that the gunshot victim wouldn't think there was much to interpret, other than he had been shot.

[Kiamichi]

Why?

I'm not Mark, but it's because of the reason he stated: homicide is the only reliable official crime statistic. Other categories are too open to manipulation, interpretation, misreporting and fraud. It's difficult to hide a homicide.

so non-lethal gunshot wounds, stab wounds, baseball bats to the head shouldn't count toward dangerous crime statistics?

I would imagine someone who was stabbed or shot and lived to talk about would disagree with that premise. I'm sure that the gunshot victim wouldn't think there was much to interpret, other than he had been shot.

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A high homicide rate is a surefire indicator that all those lesser offenses that define a violent society are very common, whether they are included in official statistics or not. I defy you to show a city anywhere in the US that reports very high rates of non-lethal gunshot wounds but a low murder rate.

[rusty]

I'm not Mark, but it's because of the reason he stated: homicide is the only reliable official crime statistic. Other categories are too open to manipulation, interpretation, misreporting and fraud. It's difficult to hide a homicide.

so non-lethal gunshot wounds, stab wounds, baseball bats to the head shouldn't count toward dangerous crime statistics?

I would imagine someone who was stabbed or shot and lived to talk about would disagree with that premise. I'm sure that the gunshot victim wouldn't think there was much to interpret, other than he had been shot.

.

A high homicide rate is a surefire indicator that all those lesser offenses that define a violent society are very common, whether they are included in official statistics or not. I defy you to show a city anywhere in the US that reports very high rates of non-lethal gunshot wounds but a low murder rate.

So? Aren't the other documented violent crimes sure-fire indicators? Or does that not support your narrative. YOu can't just make up the rules to suit you.

[Sangersteve]

The murder rates in major US Cities have soared more than 10% in the past two years — with most homicides occurring in Democratic areas with soft-on-crime policies.

In a study released by WalletHub Wednesday, researchers found that Memphis, Tennesse; New Orleans, Louisana; Richmond, Virginia; Washington, DC; and Detroit, Michigan are suffering from the biggest homicide rate problems.

All five cities are led by left-wing mayors.

After comparing the rise in murder rates in 45 of the country’s most populated cities between 2021 and 2023, scholars noticed that killings were rising faster in Democrat-led cities than in their Republican counterparts.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/26/murders-j ... tes-study/

[planosteve]

The murder rates in major US Cities have soared more than 10% in the past two years — with most homicides occurring in Democratic areas with soft-on-crime policies.

In a study released by WalletHub Wednesday, researchers found that Memphis, Tennesse; New Orleans, Louisana; Richmond, Virginia; Washington, DC; and Detroit, Michigan are suffering from the biggest homicide rate problems.

All five cities are led by left-wing mayors.

After comparing the rise in murder rates in 45 of the country’s most populated cities between 2021 and 2023, scholars noticed that killings were rising faster in Democrat-led cities than in their Republican counterparts.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/26/murders-j ... tes-study/

"Unless a dangerous crime ranking is based solely on the homicide rate per capita--the only reliable official crime statistic--it is not worth the paper it is printed on." Kiamichi