How the US helped to create ISIS

[planosteve]

A new memoir by a former senior State Department analyst provides stunning details on how decades of support for Islamist militants linked to Osama bin Laden brought about the emergence of the ‘Islamic State’ (ISIS).

The book establishes a crucial context for recent admissions by Michael T. Flynn, the retired head of the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), confirming that White House officials made a “willful decision” to support al-Qaeda affiliated jihadists in Syria — despite being warned by the DIA that doing so would likely create an ‘ISIS’-like entity in the region.

J. Michael Springmann, a retired career US diplomat whose last government post was in the State Department’s Bureau of Intelligence and Research, reveals in his new book that US covert operations in alliance with Middle East states funding anti-Western terrorist groups are nothing new. Such operations, he shows, have been carried out for various short-sighted reasons since the Cold War and after.

In the 1980s, as US support for mujahideen fighters accelerated in Afghanistan to kick out the Soviet Union, Springmann found himself unwittingly at the heart of highly classified operations that allowed Islamist militants linked to Osama bin Laden to establish a foothold within the United States.

After the end of the Cold War, Springmann alleged, similar operations continued in different contexts for different purposes — in the former Yugoslavia, in Libya and elsewhere. The rise of ISIS, he contends, was a predictable outcome of this counterproductive policy.

Everyday brings new horror stories about atrocities committed by ISIS fighters. Today, for instance, the New York Times offered a deeply disturbing report on how ISIS has formally adopted a theology and policy of systematic rape of non-Muslim women and children. The practice has become embedded throughout the territories under ISIS control through a process of organized slavery, sanctioned by the movement’s own religious scholars.

But in a recent interview on Al-Jazeera’s flagship talk-show ‘Head to Head,’ former DIA chief Lieutenant General (Lt. Gen.) Michael Flynn told host Mehdi Hasan that the rise of ISIS was a direct consequence of US support for Syrian insurgents whose core fighters were from al-Qaeda in Iraq.

https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/officials-islamic-state-arose-from-us-support-for-al-qaeda-in-iraq-a37c9a60be4

[ralph]

I won't argue cause I don't know but if the USA did create 'Islamic state' , well , its now time to destroy 'Islamic state' !!

[planosteve]

I won't argue cause I don't know but if the USA did create 'Islamic state' , well , its now time to destroy 'Islamic state' !!

Well, it's easy enough to do. Just tell the Saudis and the UAE to stop funding it and interdict their supply lines from Turkey. It will disappear in a couple of weeks.

[ralph]

I think that the USA needs to destroy 'Islamic state' , go in with a vengeance and get it done . It'll be Practice for the next Wars that are coming down the road .

[planosteve]

I think that the USA needs to destroy 'Islamic state' , go in with a vengeance and get it done . It'll be Practice for the next Wars that are coming down the road .

Go in where? There is no "ISIS" country to bomb. It is a mercenary army. Unless your going to bomb Saudi, UAE or Turkey, there is nothing to bomb. Since it is a mercenary army you can kill as many of them you like, but they will just hire some more.

[ralph]

think Trump is advocating bombing the oil fields that 'Islamic state' controls Steve . Point is that Trump has to think it through with some advice from good pro war fighting American Generals for the plan to be acceptable to even me . His plan is not yet a plan and he knows it , he is not a mrobama doing some silly pinprick bombings . ----------- as example , see Trumps plan on immigration . First there were rumors , lies , whispers and speculation . Finally a policy and position paper emerges . It'll be the same thing when Trump puts out policy , position and ideas on oil and fighting 'Islamic state' , being paid in oil but it'll be in Mr. Trumps time frame .

[GFB]

I think that the USA needs to destroy 'Islamic state' , go in with a vengeance and get it done . It'll be Practice for the next Wars that are coming down the road .

Go in where? There is no "ISIS" country to bomb. It is a mercenary army. Unless your going to bomb Saudi, UAE or Turkey, there is nothing to bomb. Since it is a mercenary army you can kill as many of them you like, but they will just hire some more.

Isis is a country. They have carved out pieces of Syria and Iraq to create it.

Much of the world may not be recognizing it as such..but that's what it is.

[planosteve]

I think that the USA needs to destroy 'Islamic state' , go in with a vengeance and get it done . It'll be Practice for the next Wars that are coming down the road .

Go in where? There is no "ISIS" country to bomb. It is a mercenary army. Unless your going to bomb Saudi, UAE or Turkey, there is nothing to bomb. Since it is a mercenary army you can kill as many of them you like, but they will just hire some more.

Isis is a country. They have carved out pieces of Syria and Iraq to create it.

Much of the world may not be recognizing it as such..but that's what it is.

Actually, no other country or the UN recognizes ISIS as a country or state. You don't get to be a state by calling yourself one. ISIS in neither a state or Islamic. It is a proxy mercenary army that controls territory in several states.

[ralph]

TRUMP recognizes who the enemy is and that's all that matter to me and Trumps supporters Steve !!

[ralph]

I think that Crus also recognizes , same for Carson .

[planosteve]

TRUMP recognizes who the enemy is and that's all that matter to me and Trumps supporters Steve !!

So does Obama. You support him too?

[GFB]

TRUMP recognizes who the enemy is and that's all that matter to me and Trumps supporters Steve !!

So does Obama. You support him too?

No he doesn't.

He thinks Iran is our friend and Israel is our enemy.

Isis?

They're not even worth a mention.

[planosteve]

TRUMP recognizes who the enemy is and that's all that matter to me and Trumps supporters Steve !!

So does Obama. You support him too?

No he doesn't.

He thinks Iran is our friend and Israel is our enemy.

Isis?

They're not even worth a mention.

How many times has Bibi visited the White House? How many times has the leader of Iran?

[GFB]

No he doesn't.

He thinks Iran is our friend and Israel is our enemy.

Isis?

They're not even worth a mention.

How many times has Bibi visited the White House? How many times has the leader of Iran?

That the best you got?