Heavily edited video, ummm not so much.

[Mark]

As I was sayin' earlier: let's debate planned parent on the merits ...

Let's do.

Planned parenthood is a private organization. It is not a government agency.

There isn't any mention in the constitution about funding organizations such as Planned Parenthood.

Therefore, appropriating funds confiscated from taxpayers to Planned Parenthood is 100% unconstitutional.

[mayhem]

O, no you don't. A Classic Rush maneuver -- never address criticism directly. Always shift from the
criticism to a slightly (or largely) unrelated, but incendiary, topic and argue that.

Not falling for that. My thrust was first. I'll discuss your thing after you discuss my thing (well,
my cut and paste thingie anyhow).

This is the thingie that gets discussed next unless you don't have the stomach for it:

As I was sayin' earlier: let's debate planned parent on the merits ... not the deceptions.


As if truth-telling worked out so well for his colleague Kevin McCarthy, Republican Congressman Jason Chaffetz has just admitted that the GOP’s investigation into Planned Parenthood’s misuse of federal funds turned out to be a dud.

“Did I look at the finances and have a hearing specifically as to the revenue portion and how they spend? Yes. Was there any wrongdoing? I didn’t find any,” Huffington Post’s Jennifery Bendery reports the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee chairman admitted during yet another hearing on Thursday.

As I was sayin' earlier: let's debate planned parent on the merits ...

Let's do.

Planned parenthood is a private organization. It is not a government agency.

There isn't any mention in the constitution about funding organizations such as Planned Parenthood.

Therefore, appropriating funds confiscated from taxpayers to Planned Parenthood is 100% unconstitutional.

[GFB]

The Planned Parenthood scandal is not a financial one..it is a moral one.

Cutting off their funding is about that.

[Mark]

Blah, blah, blah

What part of blatantly unconstitutional does your feeble mind not understand?

[mayhem]

If all it is is a moral failure, why is the vendetta in congress built on inaccuracies being permitted
for congressional investigation as is the point of my post?

Anyhow, the point now is: you (generally) want to end a needed organization because of a
difference of opinion on a tiny percentage of what's really taking place?

I think you assume that a moral consensus has been reached. If it has been reached,
it is that abortion, while very painful and obviously repellent when reduced to its
basics, has been proved legal for dozens of years.

And ... if the issue is, as you say, a moral one, why don't we start with the
moral behavior of the accusers? I think they were purposely misleading.

And, regardless what you say, PP does not pay for abortions with funds from
the gov't.

So what are we quarreling about?

The Planned Parenthood scandal is not a financial one..it is a moral one.

Cutting off their funding is about that.

[Mark]

PP does not pay for abortions with funds from
the gov't.

Bullshit.

[John in Plano]

This not trolling. It's a simple statement of truth.

Left out the attribution:

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/09/gops_ca ... rongdoing/

google
cervical cancer screening;

https://www.google.com/search?q=cervica ... 8&oe=utf-8

from the salon link;

For five hours, Republican lawmakers grilled Richards about her salary, the organization’s travel budget and of course abortions, all the while ignoring that Planned Parenthood provides crucial cervical cancer screenings.

Does PP "provide" them, or "provide funds for them", or, like mammograms, does it just "lie about providing them"?

mayhem knows

[mayhem]

First let's list everything that isn't provided for by the constitution. O, right, that
would be a long list.

To get the job done, there must be funding for the
priorities or we get mushed by the ordinary machinations of every day
happenings.

Congress has the power to solve, in purty much its own way,
problems.

Any fair person would quickly see that the gummit must be allowed to establish
x, y or z, because, if it cannot, it is not positioned to survive the slings and arrows
of outrageous fortune.

(In other words, the Internal Revenue Service e,g, is not in
the constitution, but the nation would be in life altering trouble if we did not
have it. I'm guessing you are not happy about the IRS, but that fair person
would agree that it is messy and inconvenient as well as being necessary.)

And my feeble mind doesn't recognized 'blah, blah, blah' as a reasonable
argument bec it isn't.

PS What is the difference between 'unconstitutional' and 'blatantly
unconstitutional???

Your friend,

ATDoW

Blah, blah, blah

What part of blatantly unconstitutional does your feeble mind not understand?

[ann jusko]

This is an example of the "invaders" we had on Dallas Digest. People who think Texans are not real bright and they will "school" us. Meanwhile, these "ignorant" Texans are making money hand over fist. New York City is a hell hole brought on by "progressives". The smart people are rebelling against the taxes they have to pay, and moving out of New York City and state. I have to laugh at the "incentives" they're dangling in front of companies to move to New York state. Who in the hell wants to move to Buffalo? Who wants to pay all those taxes to support people who won't work? So, please clean up your own state before you try to "school" Texans. We don't want socialism here. Whatever he calls himself now, we know who he is...waterhead.

[millergrovesue]

I read over several posts on this thread. The only rude comments I saw came from Mark and GFB.

[GFB]

That was rude.

..and I had one post..nothing rude.

[jellowrestling]

That was rude.

..and I had one post..nothing rude.

The Planned Parenthood scandal is not a financial one..it is a moral one.

Cutting off their funding is about that.

You don't call that rude?!?!?

[mayhem]

>>>Show me the money!!<<<

By the way, thanks for the brilliant riposte.

PP does not pay for abortions with funds from
the gov't.

Bullshit.

[Mark]

That was rude.

..and I had one post..nothing rude.

The Planned Parenthood scandal is not a financial one..it is a moral one.

Cutting off their funding is about that.

You don't call that rude?!?!?

MGS is the biggest shit stirrer on this discussion board....while pretending to be above the fray.

I've encountered those types before.

[planosteve]

Does it bother anybody but me that our entire monetary and banking system is unconstitutional?

[GFB]

That was rude.

..and I had one post..nothing rude.

The Planned Parenthood scandal is not a financial one..it is a moral one.

Cutting off their funding is about that.

You don't call that rude?!?!?

No..I simply said that cutting off their funding is based on morality..not finance,

Do you have your reading glasses on?

[planosteve]

As a libertarian property rights is a paramont issue. Your body is your property. Nobody has the right to tell you want you can or can't do with it. Therefore, the state has no jurisdiction in those matters. That's why I don't participate in discussions on abortion. Who pays for them is irrelevant.

[jellowrestling]

That was rude.

..and I had one post..nothing rude.

The Planned Parenthood scandal is not a financial one..it is a moral one.

Cutting off their funding is about that.

You don't call that rude?!?!?

No..I simply said that cutting off their funding is based on morality..not finance,

Do you have your reading glasses on?

LOL.
Some people just make cr*p up. I just thought I would point out the typical "rude" GFB post: Simply stating a simple fact.

[jellowrestling]

As a libertarian property rights is a paramont issue. Your body is your property. Nobody has the right to tell you want you can or can't do with it. Therefore, the state has no jurisdiction in those matters. That's why I don't participate in discussions on abortion. Who pays for them is irrelevant.

The issue is not what one is or isn't doing with one's own body. The issue is what is being done with the baby's body.

[mayhem]

I have a very high opinion of Texans having lived in TX for many years. I have a very low opinion of
people who believe that courageous searching for the truth is partisan. (Ann Coulter, in my
opinion, is a great example of blind partisanship and the unwillingness to tell the whole
truth.)

NYC is not a hellhole and hundreds of thousands of real people (who have made money hand over fist as easily as TX's
have) move into Manhattan, Brooklyn and Queens as fast as hundred thousand to multimillion dollars apts per year.


I don't want to 'school' anyone. I believe pointing out misleading statements, deceptions, and outright lies
should be put under the old bright light. (This is for BOTH extremes as well as the soporific middle!) There
have been more outright lies and deceptions about PP than anything excepting maybe Obamacare.

The truth, for example, is that there was NEVER any kind of death panels whose point was to kill
grannie as soon as she slowed down. That was a consistently told and retold LIE repeated by many who
knew it was not true.

[Not understanding the waterhead quote.]

NY is not the only one dangling tax incentives. Do you recall the MAJOR incentives offered by Dallas
to bring Boeing's main offices there? Wow! Talk about giving away the store.

It was embarrassing to watch. But ... I'd don't know of
five people who want to move to Buffalo... but what does that have to do with PP??? And what
about Jerry's stadium? How much did we have to pay for that? (I don't remember now ...)

My state? It's doing better than your state in many areas, but again, that's not the point and how the
heck do you offer this as an argument? For what?

Why can't you contest without ranting? You remind me of JW and RO. Surely you don't want that.
(O, well, maybe you do.)

Anyhow, ann, you have it wrong about me on; o, so many levels.

This is an example of the "invaders" we had on Dallas Digest. People who think Texans are not real bright and they will "school" us. Meanwhile, these "ignorant" Texans are making money hand over fist. New York City is a hell hole brought on by "progressives". The smart people are rebelling against the taxes they have to pay, and moving out of New York City and state. I have to laugh at the "incentives" they're dangling in front of companies to move to New York state. Who in the hell wants to move to Buffalo? Who wants to pay all those taxes to support people who won't work? So, please clean up your own state before you try to "school" Texans. We don't want socialism here. Whatever he calls himself now, we know who he is...waterhead.