History lesson..

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For those that don't know about history ... Here is a condensed
version:

Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic
hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer
and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter.

The two most important events in all of history were the
invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented
to get man to the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization
and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two
distinct subgroups:

1 . Liberals
2. Conservatives.

Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the
beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were
invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for
them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how
villages were formed.

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to BBQ at
night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is
known as the Conservative movement...

Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to
live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly BBQ's and doing
the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the
Liberal movement.

Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. They
became known as girlie-men. Some noteworthy liberal achievements include
the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs,
and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat
and beer that conservatives provided.


Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the
largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are
symbolized by the jackass for obvious reasons..

Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most
prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like
their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal
fare.. Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women
have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers,
personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group
therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule
because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat.

Conservatives drink domestic beer, mostly Bud or Miller. They
eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big
game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen,
medical doctors, police officers, engineers, corporate executives,
athletes, members of the military, airline pilots and generally anyone
who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other
conservatives who want to work for a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the
producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe
Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the
liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America .
They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of
trying to get more for nothing.

Here ends today's lesson in world history:

[millergrovesue]

Reader's Digest condensed version, please.

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Reader's Digest condensed version, please.

Conservative = manly men

Liberal = girlie men

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If you actually read history you find the original liberals were in favor of change and innovation. The original conservatives were for maintaining the status quo.

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If you actually read history you find the original liberals were in favor of change and innovation. The original conservatives were for maintaining the status quo.

[jellowrestling]

If you actually read history you find the original liberals were in favor of change and innovation. The original conservatives were for maintaining the status quo.

If you read history, it was probably written by a liberal. He defined "liberal" and "conservative" by taking everything objectionable and calling it "conservative", and everything favorable and calling it "liberal".

That practice continues today, where lawmakers who supported Jim Crow laws are referred to as "conservatives", rather than what they really were: liberal Democrats.

If you actually know history, you know that the "original" liberals opposed the Divine Right of Kings and hereditary privilege of the nobility (and so forth). Conservatives, naturally, supported the monarchy and the existing social order. What is now referred to as "Classic Liberalism" was focused on individual rights and free trade, issues which are more associated with the modern Conservative and Libertarian movements, while "Liberals" focus on federal micromanagement of economic and social issues.

[GRANDPA]

You can't necessarily classify people or ideologies of the past by today's terms, especially if very far in the past. For example, some claim the Founding Fathers were liberals, while others claim they were conservatives. You have to consider them in the context of their times.
The southern Democrats who supported Jim Crow were not then considered liberal & still would not be today. They were strong believers in states rights & disliked the meddling from Washington.

[GFB]

If you actually read history you find the original liberals were in favor of change and innovation. The original conservatives were for maintaining the status quo.

If you read history, it was probably written by a liberal. He defined "liberal" and "conservative" by taking everything objectionable and calling it "conservative", and everything favorable and calling it "liberal".

That practice continues today, where lawmakers who supported Jim Crow laws are referred to as "conservatives", rather than what they really were: liberal Democrats.

If you actually know history, you know that the "original" liberals opposed the Divine Right of Kings and hereditary privilege of the nobility (and so forth). Conservatives, naturally, supported the monarchy and the existing social order. What is now referred to as "Classic Liberalism" was focused on individual rights and free trade, issues which are more associated with the modern Conservative and Libertarian movements, while "Liberals" focus on federal micromanagement of economic and social issues.

Excellent!

[jellowrestling]

You can't necessarily classify people or ideologies of the past by today's terms, especially if very far in the past. For example, some claim the Founding Fathers were liberals, while others claim they were conservatives. You have to consider them in the context of their times.
The southern Democrats who supported Jim Crow were not then considered liberal & still would not be today. They were strong believers in states rights & disliked the meddling from Washington.

Many of those Southerners were FDR Democrats. Hard to reconcile that with your statement above about states rights and Washington meddling.

[Red Oak]

The Dixiecrats revolted against the FDR Democrats meddling.

[jellowrestling]

The Dixiecrats revolted against the FDR Democrats meddling.

The Dixiecrats revolt was mostly over integration/segregation. That included both liberals and conservatives.