The US Economy is dead and interest rates are going up

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The US Economy is dead and interest rates are going up

Postby planosteve » Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:38 am

The Fed Has A Big Surprise Waiting For You

Now, it seems obvious that the Bank of Japan and the ECB are not about to hike rates tomorrow morning. In Europe, dozens of national politicians wouldn’t accept it, and in Japan, it would mean an early end to many things including Shinzo Abe.

But the Bank of England and the Fed are another story. Though if the Yes side wins in Scotland next week, the narrative may change a lot of Mark Carney and the City. That leaves the Fed. And it’s important to realize and remember that, certainly after Greenspan entered the scene, speaking in tongues, the Fed has become a piece of theater. The Fed is about perception. About trying to make people believe something, and make them act a certain way that they choose for them.

That’s why after the Oracle left they pushed first a bearded gnome and then a grandma forward as the public face. The kind of people nobody would perceive as a threat. Putting a guy who looks like second hand car salesman in charge of the Fed wouldn’t work.

Not when a big financial crisis looms, and then continues on for a decade and counting. That makes keeping up appearances the no. 1 priority. That’s when you want a grandma, or you’d lose your credibility real fast. You need grandma for your theater, for the next play you’re going to stage.

That market volatility today is at record lows is part of a big play, or a big scene in a play if you will. And the goal is not to make markets look good, as many people think. Making markets look good, making the economy look good, is just an intermediate step designed to lure everyone in.

You make people believe you got their back. All the big investors. Because they make tons of money, while they thought maybe the crisis could have really hurt them. Even the public at large feels you got their back. Because they don’t understand what the sleight of hand is.

The big investors understand, but you got them believing you will play that hand forever, or let them know well ahead of time when you intend to fold. The big investors think you will skim the public, but not them. They think you’re all on the same side. And the public thinks you’re healing the economy, and saving their jobs and homes and pensions.

When rate hikes are discussed, like I did two weeks ago in This Is Why The Fed Will Raise Interest Rates, most people have similar initial reactions. ‘They can’t do that, it would kill the economy, or at least the recovery’.

But the truth is, there is no recovery. It’s just a scene in a play. And the economy is completely shot, it only appears to be left standing because the Fed poured oodles of money into it. Or rather, into a part of the economy that it can control, that it can get the money out of again easily: Wall Street banks. And Wall Street equals the Fed.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-12/fed-has-big-surprise-waiting-you#comments
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Re: The US Economy is dead and interest rates are going up

Postby GFB » Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:57 am

It's dead?

But I'm still working.
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Re: The US Economy is dead and interest rates are going up

Postby planosteve » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:41 am

GFB wrote:It's dead?

But I'm still working.
You call that work??? :D
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Re: The US Economy is dead and interest rates are going up

Postby GFB » Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:18 am

planosteve wrote:That’s why after the Oracle left they pushed first a bearded gnome and then a grandma forward as the public face.



Whoever composed this "gem" is confusing Alan Greenspan with Warren Buffett.
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Re: The US Economy is dead and interest rates are going up

Postby planosteve » Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:31 pm

GFB wrote:
planosteve wrote:That’s why after the Oracle left they pushed first a bearded gnome and then a grandma forward as the public face.



Whoever composed this "gem" is confusing Alan Greenspan with Warren Buffett.

Raúl Ilargi Meijer
I guess he hasn't been on Fox News, Brinker, or The Limbaugh Show
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Re: The US Economy is dead and interest rates are going up

Postby GFB » Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:52 pm

planosteve wrote:
GFB wrote:
planosteve wrote:That’s why after the Oracle left they pushed first a bearded gnome and then a grandma forward as the public face.



Whoever composed this "gem" is confusing Alan Greenspan with Warren Buffett.

Raúl Ilargi Meijer
I guess he hasn't been on Fox News, Brinker, or The Limbaugh Show


Llargi Meijer?

I think I had that for lunch yesterday.

Anyhow, you don't have to be on any of those shows to know that
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Re: The US Economy is dead and interest rates are going up

Postby planosteve » Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:46 pm

Raúl Ilargi Meijer is Dutch I think, lives in Canada. Probably not as familiar with our nicknames as we are. But, I hadn't heard Buffet referred to as the Oracle.
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Re: The US Economy is dead and interest rates are going up

Postby GFB » Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:15 pm

planosteve wrote:Raúl Ilargi Meijer is Dutch I think, lives in Canada. Probably not as familiar with our nicknames as we are. But, I hadn't heard Buffet referred to as the Oracle.



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Re: The US Economy is dead and interest rates are going up

Postby jellowrestling » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:22 am

GFB wrote:
planosteve wrote:Raúl Ilargi Meijer is Dutch I think, lives in Canada. Probably not as familiar with our nicknames as we are. But, I hadn't heard Buffet referred to as the Oracle.

"The Oracle of Omaha!"

Hard to take you seriously if you don't know that, PS

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/oracleofomaha.asp

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Re: The US Economy is dead and interest rates are going up

Postby planosteve » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:28 am

jellowrestling wrote:
GFB wrote:
planosteve wrote:Raúl Ilargi Meijer is Dutch I think, lives in Canada. Probably not as familiar with our nicknames as we are. But, I hadn't heard Buffet referred to as the Oracle.

"The Oracle of Omaha!"

Hard to take you seriously if you don't know that, PS

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/oracleofomaha.asp
It's hard for me to take seriously anyone who supports the FED.
I'm interested in economics. I don't pay much attention to stock pickers like Warren.
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Re: The US Economy is dead and interest rates are going up

Postby GFB » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:28 pm

Don't confuse.."supports the Fed" with.."lives in the real world."

You can bet Warren Buffet, Alan Greenspan and even Mr. Ruool Largee Merger pay close attention to the Fed as well.
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Re: The US Economy is dead and interest rates are going up

Postby planosteve » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:33 pm

GFB wrote:Don't confuse.."supports the Fed" with.."lives in the real world."

You can bet Warren Buffet, Alan Greenspan and even Mr. Ruool Largee Merger pay close attention to the Fed as well.

Because you pay close attention to something doesn't mean that you support it.
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Re: The US Economy is dead and interest rates are going up

Postby GFB » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:47 pm

planosteve wrote:
GFB wrote:Don't confuse.."supports the Fed" with.."lives in the real world."

You can bet Warren Buffet, Alan Greenspan and even Mr. Ruool Largee Merger pay close attention to the Fed as well.

Because you pay close attention to something doesn't mean that you support it.


We agree..but it does mean the Fed's purpose and value is fully understood.
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Re: The US Economy is dead and interest rates are going up

Postby planosteve » Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:02 pm

He said:
The US economy is dead. The Fed has known this for a long time, but pumped it up to where it is now to draw in all the greater fools
So, yeah, I guess you could say he understands the purpose of the FED.
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Re: The US Economy is dead and interest rates are going up

Postby GFB » Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:09 pm

planosteve wrote:He said:
The US economy is dead. The Fed has known this for a long time, but pumped it up to where it is now to draw in all the greater fools
So, yeah, I guess you could say he understands the purpose of the FED.


Shouldn't you be listening to Bob Brinker?
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Re: The US Economy is dead and interest rates are going up

Postby planosteve » Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:52 pm

GFB wrote:
planosteve wrote:He said:
The US economy is dead. The Fed has known this for a long time, but pumped it up to where it is now to draw in all the greater fools
So, yeah, I guess you could say he understands the purpose of the FED.


Shouldn't you be listening to Bob Brinker?
He doesn't come on till 5 here. I listen to him sometimes. It's interesting listening to a show called "Moneytalk" by a guy that has never figured out money. :D
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