There isn't any doubt that the swamp, including military brass, committed treason under President Trump
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I don't think anyone could do a damn thing but Biden. He he ain't going to.
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Re: There isn't any doubt that the swamp, including military brass, committed treason under President Trump
FWIW, "treason" isn't really covered in the Uniform Code of Military Justice, but it is defined in the Constitution as waging war against the U.S.and is punishable by death.
The UCMJ covers mutiny and sedition in Article 94:
(a)Any person subject to this chapter who—
(1)with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuses, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny;
(2)with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or other disturbance against that authority is guilty of sedition;
(3)fails to do his utmost to prevent and suppress a mutiny or sedition being committed in his presence, or fails to take all reasonable means to inform his superior commissioned officer or commanding officer of a mutiny or sedition which he knows or has reason to believe is taking place, is guilty of a failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition.
(b)A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.
I'm not a lawyer so I won't try to decode any of that. Lawyers get new cars arguing over what all those terms mean.
The UCMJ covers mutiny and sedition in Article 94:
(a)Any person subject to this chapter who—
(1)with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuses, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny;
(2)with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or other disturbance against that authority is guilty of sedition;
(3)fails to do his utmost to prevent and suppress a mutiny or sedition being committed in his presence, or fails to take all reasonable means to inform his superior commissioned officer or commanding officer of a mutiny or sedition which he knows or has reason to believe is taking place, is guilty of a failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition.
(b)A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.
I'm not a lawyer so I won't try to decode any of that. Lawyers get new cars arguing over what all those terms mean.
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Re: There isn't any doubt that the swamp, including military brass, committed treason under President Trump
The last mutiny I heard of was on the Bounty.
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Re: There isn't any doubt that the swamp, including military brass, committed treason under President Trump
1a above is exactly what Milley did.
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Former Trump national security adviser John Bolton defended Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley on Wednesday after a new book claimed Milley moved to limit Trump's ability to call for a military strike in the days after the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.
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Ex-Trump adviser Bolton defends Milley:
Former Trump national security adviser John Bolton defended Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley on Wednesday after a new book claimed Milley moved to limit Trump's ability to call for a military strike in the days after the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.
Bolton said Milley's "patriotism is unquestioned" and that he is a "staunch supporter of the Constitution and the rule of law."
"In the days after Donald Trump's November 3, 2020, election defeat, I can only imagine the pressures he and others were under in fulfilling their Constitutional obligations," Bolton wrote. "I have no doubt General Milley consulted widely with his colleagues on the National Security Council and others during this period."
The Hill
Ex-Trump adviser Bolton defends Milley:
Former Trump national security adviser John Bolton defended Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley on Wednesday after a new book claimed Milley moved to limit Trump's ability to call for a military strike in the days after the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.
Bolton said Milley's "patriotism is unquestioned" and that he is a "staunch supporter of the Constitution and the rule of law."
"In the days after Donald Trump's November 3, 2020, election defeat, I can only imagine the pressures he and others were under in fulfilling their Constitutional obligations," Bolton wrote. "I have no doubt General Milley consulted widely with his colleagues on the National Security Council and others during this period."
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Bolton is just another swamp creature.
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Here's what Bolton says in his book:Mark wrote:Bolton is just another swamp creature.
What Bolton saw astonished him: a President for whom getting reelected was the only thing that mattered, even if it meant endangering or weakening the nation. “I am hard-pressed to identify any significant Trump decision during my tenure that wasn’t driven by reelection calculations,” he writes. In fact, he argues that the House committed impeachment malpractice by keeping their prosecution focused narrowly on Ukraine when Trump’s Ukraine-like transgressions existed across the full range of his foreign policy—and Bolton documents exactly what those were, and attempts by him and others in the Administration to raise alarms about them.
He shows a President addicted to chaos, who embraced our enemies and spurned our friends, and was deeply suspicious of his own government. In Bolton’s telling, all this helped put Trump on the bizarre road to impeachment.
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Re: There isn't any doubt that the swamp, including military brass, committed treason under President Trump
Like I said, he's just another swamp creature with an extreme case of TDS.
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Mark wrote:Like I said, he's just another swamp creature with an extreme case of TDS.
Bolton worked for him. You didn't. I'll go with Bolton.
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President Trump fired the warmonger Bolton, so he has a huge chip on his shoulder.
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Re: There isn't any doubt that the swamp, including military brass, committed treason under President Trump
planosteve wrote:Mark wrote:Like I said, he's just another swamp creature with an extreme case of TDS.
Bolton worked for him. You didn't. I'll go with Bolton.
Bolton is one of those (like Mattis) that went there with a mission..not the mission of carrying out the President’s policies…their mission was..change the President.
Those people are all hated now.
If you’re “woke”..you’re a loser.
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I don't think he can be fired by anyone BUT the president.
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All I know is that if Milley were accused of doing this to a democrat president, his defenders today, would be building the gallows themselves.
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Re: There isn't any doubt that the swamp, including military brass, committed treason under President Trump
Sangersteve wrote:All I know is that if Milley were accused of doing this to a democrat president, his defenders today, would be building the gallows themselves.
Maybe, but the last President was the only POTUS in recent memory that was obviously bat-shit crazy.
He changed the game.
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rusty wrote:Sangersteve wrote:All I know is that if Milley were accused of doing this to a democrat president, his defenders today, would be building the gallows themselves.
Maybe, but the last President was the only POTUS in recent memory that was obviously bat-shit crazy.
He changed the game.
I agree.
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Re: There isn't any doubt that the swamp, including military brass, committed treason under President Trump
Indeed, "All Leftists are completely effing stupid."
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BillP wrote:planosteve wrote:Fired? By who?
He can be fired by the president, by congress or by a general courts-martial.
Is that just your opinion? Or can you back it up?
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Re: There isn't any doubt that the swamp, including military brass, committed treason under President Trump
planosteve wrote:BillP wrote:planosteve wrote:Fired? By who?
He can be fired by the president, by congress or by a general courts-martial.
Is that just your opinion? Or can you back it up?
Come on, Steve. You can't be that dense. The chairman is nominated by the president & confirmed by the Senate. He serves at the pleasure of the president. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/152
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The CJC is appointed by and serves at the pleasure of the President. Nobody else can remove him.
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Re: There isn't any doubt that the swamp, including military brass, committed treason under President Trump
What? Wait, isn't that what I just . . . Oh, now I get it. You're one of those who has to get the last word, aren't you?
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