Jews Question the Holocaust Narrative-Paul Craig Roberts

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Was the Holocaust a marketing device in service to the Zionist agenda? Only Jews can investigate this question as gentiles are too intimidated and brainwashed to investigate. In European countries it is dangerous to investigate Holocaust claims, because anything less than a regurgitation of the official narrative brings a prison sentence. A person might think that if the official story is true, Zionists would want it investigated. It would be a great victory for Zionists if the Holocaust were investigated by objective gentile scholars and found to be true. Instead, there is an Iron Curtain of censorship preventing any investigation of the claims.

Consequently, the only people who can investigate the Holocaust are Jews. Norman Finkelstein calls the Holocaust an “industry.” Ron Unz, quotes many Jewish dissenters from the story and himself comes to remarkable conclusions.

Why is the question important? Every country has its national myths, so why shouldn’t Zionist Israel?

The problem with national myths, or some of them, is that false portrayals of history can coerce people into living a false reality. Consider, for example, “American Exceptionalism,” a creation of American liberal interventionists. This concept was transformed by neoconservatives into Washington’s hegemony over American citizens and the world. It has become a dangerous ideology promising nuclear conflict with Russia and China.

The Holocaust has a similar implication. If the Holocaust justifies any and all Israeli actions, normal constraints on the outbreak of war are set aside. The consequences, as we see in Gaza, can be horrific.

Countries need a good opinion of themselves even if they don’t deserve it. But the arrogance and hubris associated with self-justification need to be restrained by a realistic view. The problems between people and countries come from one or both parties having unrealistic views of their responsibility for the conflict. In a world in which weapons have the capability of ending all life, we must give priority to realism.

And we have so little of it. The official narrative of the so-called “American civil war” is false. The official narrative of WW I is false. The official narrative of WW II is false. The official narratives of President John F. Kennedy’s assignation and that of his brother are false. The official narrative of the Waco massacre is false. The official narrative of 9/11 is false. The official narrative of the “Covid pandemic” is false. And so on. Every country has its own false narratives.

The accumulation of false narratives creates a false understanding, the consequence being that people end up living in a historically false reality. If reality cannot be perceived, its demands cannot be understood and faced. This is where we stand today.

With false portrayals of reality all around us, it is possible that the Holocaust is just another one. But only Jews can look into the question as Ron Unz does here https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravd ... aust-hoax/ and here https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravd ... and-nazis/ .

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2024/0 ... narrative/

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Everything following "Was the Holocaust..." is kookburger nonsense.

Every time you post this utter horsesh*t, I think of my neighbors who were Holocaust survivors. Let's just say that they would firmly disagree.

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Everything following "Was the Holocaust..." is kookburger nonsense.

Every time you post this utter horsesh*t, I think of my neighbors who were Holocaust survivors. Let's just say that they would firmly disagree.

So, your saying this guy is nuts?
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Everything following "Was the Holocaust..." is kookburger nonsense.

Every time you post this utter horsesh*t, I think of my neighbors who were Holocaust survivors. Let's just say that they would firmly disagree.

So, your saying this guy is nuts?
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So what does a 42+ year old letter prove, even one from President Reagan? Being an assistant secretary of the treasury doesn't prove his competency when it comes to him trying to disprove the Holocaust.

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Everything following "Was the Holocaust..." is kookburger nonsense.

Every time you post this utter horsesh*t, I think of my neighbors who were Holocaust survivors. Let's just say that they would firmly disagree.

So, your saying this guy is nuts?
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/wp-con ... ropped.jpg

So what does a 42+ year old letter prove, even one from President Reagan? Being an assistant secretary of the treasury doesn't prove his competency when it comes to him trying to disprove the Holocaust.

Of course..for me it was just too dumb to respond to.

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Speaking of "Holocausts" did you know there was also one during the 1st World War? It was a fund raiser. But it was a big failure. Most info about it has been scrubbed. They dusted it off for WWII and that time it stuck.

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Speaking of "Holocausts" did you know there was also one during the 1st World War? It was a fund raiser. But it was a big failure. Most info about it has been scrubbed. They dusted it off for WWII and that time it stuck.

OK, I located the evidence. This has been covered up for decades. There are at least 3 books I found. They are well hidden. Here is one of them.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/254 ... -holocaust
The First Holocaust: Jewish Fund Raising Campaigns With Holocaust Claims During And After World War One
Don Heddesheimer
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Most people believe that roughly six million Jews were killed by National Socialist Germany during World War II in an event generally referred to as the Holocaust or the Shoah. But how long have we known about this six million figure? The most frequent answer is that the six million figure was established after the Second World War. But the six million figure is actually remarkably older. Six million Jews in Poland and Russia threatened with imminent this allegation was appearing in such sources as "The New York Times" -- but the year was 1919! Heddesheimer documents post-WWI propaganda that claimed East European Jewry was on the brink of annihilation, regularly invoking nowadays well-known buzzwords like "extermination," "holocaust," and the now famous and almost talismanic six million figure. It gives details how that propaganda was used prior to WWII in order to agitate for minority rights for Jews in Poland, and for Zionism and Bolshevism in Poland and Russia; and demonstrates how Jewish fundraising operations in America raised vast sums in the name of feeding Polish and Russian Jews. Although this exaggerated propaganda of Jewish suffering slowed down during the 1930s, it never completely ceased and received new momentum in the 1940s during the Second World War. This propaganda skyrocketed after Germany's total defeat, as the victorious nations took advantage of such propaganda. Heddesheimer's book clearly shows that the "six million" figure, together with "extermination" and "holocaust" claims, are Jewish-Zionist in nature and part of a propaganda pattern which started at the very dawn of the 20th century in order to promote Jewish political and financial goals.

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Cat got your fingers?

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Cat got your fingers?

No. This is utter nonsense.

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Cat got your fingers?

No. This is utter nonsense.

Did you know that it was claimed there would be "holocaust" during the 1st world war too? It was a Jewish fund raising effort that flopped. It was claimed that 6 million Jews would die unless they collected enough money.
They didn't collect much.

[jellowrestling]

Cat got your fingers?

No. This is utter nonsense.

Did you know that it was claimed there would be "holocaust" during the 1st world war too? It was a Jewish fund raising effort that flopped. It was claimed that 6 million Jews would die unless they collected enough money.
They didn't collect much.

Did you know that American troops paraded Germans through the death camps to witness what had happened, because the Germans initially refused to believe it had happened? Did you know that once those people saw what had actually happened, they were so horrified that they made it a crime to deny the historical fact of the Holocaust? Did you know that you are a straight-runnin' idiot?

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Do you know why so many people died in the "death camps"? It wasn't because they were gassed. There have been at least 3 books written based on examination of the evidence. All three declared that could not have happened. Nor could the ovens disposed of nearly the number of bodies that was claimed. They died of starvation and disease. Do you know why the starved? They died in the largest camps because they were built to be resupplied by rail. There were no roads in or out. When the Americans arrived, they started bombing the rail lines. They were warned not to because they were cutting off the food, medicine and everything else. That's why you seen piles of naked bodies that are just skin and bones. Do you think the US govt. would have admitted the truth!!! Hell no! And they never will. The US caused the "holocaust" not the Germans. Thanks for help them spread the lies "Jelly".

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Your inability to grasp history is not a valid argument against it.

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Your inability to grasp history is not a valid argument against it.

If the history is bullshit it is. And when the govt basically controls education a lot of it will be.
I think that the camps were probably built, not to murder the Jews, but to keep them alive. Otherwise, they would not have bothered to build them. But, that would destroy the official govt. narrative.

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A dipshit of Biblical proportion.

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As usual no argument, just the usual brain fart.