Washington’s Ukraine Obsession Is Going to Get Us All Killed! Ron Paul

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Last week the world narrowly escaped likely nuclear destruction, as the Biden Administration considered Ukraine’s request to allow US missiles to strike deeply into Russian territory. Russian president Vladimir Putin warned, as the request was being considered, that because these missiles could not be launched without the active participation of the US military and NATO, Russia would consider itself in a state of war with both NATO and the US should they be launched. It was a Cuban Missile Crisis on a massive scale.

Thankfully, permission was reportedly not granted by Washington to hit deep inside Russia, but as we have seen throughout this war, a weapons system is often first denied and then eventually granted to Washington’s proxies in Kiev. We should not rest easy even if nuclear war has been temporarily averted.

Would missile strikes deep inside Russia win the war for Ukraine? Not even the Pentagon thinks so. US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin himself said earlier this month that granting Ukraine permission to launch missiles into Russia would not be a “game-changer” in the two and a half year war.

Risking nuclear destruction for no tangible purpose? Have these people gone insane?

Even the “game-changers” have changed little in this war. How many times has the pro-war mainstream media told us a weapons system would be a “game-changer” for Ukraine? Remember Javelin missiles? Leopard tanks? HIMARS? And as each one of them fails to turn the tide in Ukraine’s favor, the neocons and their friends in the media only demand more.

The fact is that Russia is winning the war despite hundreds of billions of dollars and the best weapons systems from the US and NATO countries. Each new shipment of increasingly sophisticated weapons does not produce battlefield victories for Ukraine. It only produces more dead Ukrainian soldiers and more profits for the weapons manufacturers.

Even the mainstream media – which has solidly supported the Ukraine war – has begun to report on Ukraine’s huge losses and hopeless situation. Yet as more and more start to wake up about the disastrous proxy war, Washington only knows one direction when it comes to war: forward. Just over a week ago the Pentagon announced another $250 million arms package for Ukraine. Nobody believes that is going to reverse the steady gains made by Russia on the battlefield, but it will generate more profits for the US arms manufacturers who are the real force behind our hyper-interventionist foreign policy.

The unlikely duo of Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., and Donald Trump, Jr., said it best in a recent editorial in The Hill: “We cannot get any closer to the brink than this. And for what? To ‘weaken Russia’? To control Ukraine’s minerals? No vital American interest is at stake. To risk nuclear conflict for the sake of the neoconservative fantasy of global ‘full-spectrum dominance’ is madness.”

They are right, it is madness to risk the future of our country and our children and grandchildren for wars that have nothing to do with us and serve no national interest of the United States. This is certainly true for the Ukraine war, and it is also true for the wars the US is supporting in the Middle East. When will the madness end? When the people speak up and demand a change.
https://www.unz.com/rpaul/washingtons-u ... ll-killed/

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Vote for Trump.

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RIght now the US is financing 2 major wars with fiat money, Ukraine and Gaza. I think he might throw Ukraine under the bus, but not Israel. He spent 4 years as president kissing Bibi's ass. And about half of his family or so are Jewish now. His hometown is Hymietown!

[Mark]

Vote for Trump.

Indeed.

The ONLY way to end that Ukrainian money laundering operation is to put President Trump back in office.

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Vote for Trump.

Indeed.

The ONLY way to end that Ukrainian money laundering operation is to put President Trump back in office.

Why do you refer to giving money to Ukraine as "money laundering'' but not to Israel"?

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Vote for Trump.

Indeed.

The ONLY way to end that Ukrainian money laundering operation is to put President Trump back in office.

Why do you refer to giving money to Ukraine as "money laundering'' but not to Israel"?

Israel is our greatest ally in that part of the world…arguably in ALL the world.

Ukraine is somewhere we have no ties with..and never have.

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What country in that part of the world is a threat to the United States?

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What country in that part of the world is a threat to the United States?

China is the big threat.

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What country in that part of the world is a threat to the United States?

China is the big threat.

China is not in the Middle East. And they are no threat to us. We couldn't get along without them. They produce about everything we need

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What country in that part of the world is a threat to the United States?

China is the big threat.

China is not in the Middle East. And they are no threat to us. We couldn't get along without them. They produce about everything we need

Iran is the biggest threat.

(This is like talking to a 3rd grader)

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China is the big threat.

China is not in the Middle East. And they are no threat to us. We couldn't get along without them. They produce about everything we need

Iran is the biggest threat.

(This is like talking to a 3rd grader)

Funny, I was thinking exactly the same thing. I spent 5 years on active duty in the USAF. What are your creds? Hmmmmm?
Iran is no threat to the US. Zero, Zip, Nada!
It has no nukes and it would take decades to be able to produce any.

[Mark]

What country in that part of the world is a threat to the United States?

All of them, with the lone exception being Israel.

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What country in that part of the world is a threat to the United States?

All of them, with the lone exception being Israel.

I would say Israel is. We are going broke sending billions and billions of weapons and money that we don't have to finance their wars. If Israel disappeared from the face of the earth, the world would be much better off.

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What country in that part of the world is a threat to the United States?

All of them, with the lone exception being Israel.

I would say Israel is. We are going broke sending billions and billions of weapons and money that we don't have to finance their wars. If Israel disappeared from the face of the earth, the world would be much better off.

That was really dumb.