Drone mystery: New Jersey homeowners threaten to take matters into their own hands if government doesn't act
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Drone mystery: New Jersey homeowners threaten to take matters into their own hands if government doesn't act
New Jersey residents frustrated with a lack of answers regarding dozens of potential drone sightings in the skies above their homes are threatening to take action on their own if the government doesn't start providing answers.
James Ward, a Jersey Shore Realtor, shared video on Facebook that he said shows "SUV-size drones" above Island Beach State Park taken Sunday. It's difficult to judge their size in the clip, which shows a number of lights hovering in the sky.
"Dozens of SUV-size drones in all directions," the caption says. "Emerging at same time and flying over the ocean and then heading in different directions – what do you think?"
"A good shotgun will fix that problem," one commenter replied.
NEW JERSEY DRONE SIGHTINGS: MILITARY ANALYSTS BREAK DOWN NATIONAL SECURITY CONCERNS, DOUBT HOBBYISTS AT PLAY
"Why hasn't anyone shot one down to look for a serial number to trace it back to the operator?" another wrote. "I would think that could provide a clue."
"Semi auto 3 inch magnum 00 buck full choke!" yet another replied.
Experts warn that it is typically illegal to shoot down a drone flying over a property. The Federal Aviation Administration told Forbes in 2016 that shooting down a drone is illegal under the same federal law prohibiting the sabotage of any other aircraft.
FAA regulations also prohibit the unsafe or unauthorized operation of an aircraft — manned or not.
The talk of taking matters into their own hands came after Gov. Phil Murphy, a Democrat, and two Republican congressmen called on the federal government to shoot down any unidentified drones in the area. Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have been pressing investigators and regulators for answers for weeks.
FBI LEADER SAYS IT'S ‘CONCERNING’ HOW LITTLE HIS AGENCY KNOWS ABOUT MYSTERIOUS DRONES SEEN OVER NEW JERSEY
The source of the drones remains a mystery, and it's not even clear that all of the flying objects are drones and not manned aircraft. Experts note that the navigation lights are a big hint that whoever's flying them isn't trying to keep them hidden.
"Upon review of available imagery, it appears that many of the reported sightings are actually manned aircraft that are being operated lawfully," White House National Security Communications Adviser John Kirby told reporters Thursday.
Many of the reported sightings, however, involve objects that witnesses say look larger than typical retail drones, like the ones spotted above Island Beach State Park.
MYSTERIOUS DRONE SIGHTINGS CONTINUE TO BE REPORTED IN NEW JERSEY WITHOUT ANSWERS
An Army spokesperson told Fox News Digital Picatinny Arsenal had requested and received a temporary flight restriction until Dec. 26 for its airspace as a result of the abundance of reported drone sightings in the area.
The FAA said it is investigating the reported sightings and also issued a temporary flight restriction for the airspace around the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster.
"We look into all reports of unauthorized drone operations and investigate when appropriate," a spokesperson told Fox News Digital. "Drone operators who conduct unsafe operations that endanger other aircraft or people on the ground could face fines up to $75,000. In addition, we can suspend or revoke drone operators’ pilot certificates."
"It is an offense to actually shoot down an aircraft," said James McDanolds, the program chair at the School of Uncrewed Technology at Sonoran Desert Institute. "There are many people in the past that took matters into their own hands, if you will, and shot down a drone, most of them in a small area, even small drones, and have gotten fines and jail time for doing so."
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Residents and state officials have been seeking answers for weeks since the sightings first began cropping up in mid-November.
State Sen. Joe Pennacchio, a Republican, even sent a letter to President-elect Trump asking the incoming administration to prioritize an investigation into the matter.
"Local, county, and state law enforcement officials are working diligently trying to find answers," he wrote. "Without these answers we have no idea whether the citizens of our state are safe. Unfortunately, they depend on our federal security agencies for answer and directions. To date, almost a month into their initial sightings no answers have come from those federal agencies."
MANY JERSEY ‘DRONE’ SIGHTINGS ARE LAWFULLY OPERATED MANNED AIRCRAFT, WHITE HOUSE SAYS
In Washington, House Speaker Mike Johnson said he was expecting a classified briefing on the drone mystery Thursday.
FBI leaders had few answers at a public hearing earlier this week.
Asked if Americans are "at risk," FBI Assistant Director of the Critical Incident Response Group Robert Wheeler told Congress, "There is nothing that is known that would lead me to say that, but we just don't know. And that's the concerning part."
A hearing involving the FBI and other law enforcement left state lawmakers unsatisfied earlier this week, with state Rep. Brian Bergen storming out of the meeting and telling NewsNation it was "the biggest waste of five hours in my life."
"They don't know where the drones are coming from, they don't know who's doing it. They don't know why they're doing it," he said. "But they say there's ‘no credible threat.’ It was annoying to be there."
According to Gov. Murphy, there were 49 reports of drones on Sunday alone, mostly in Hunterdon County.
In Southern California Wednesday, federal prosecutors announced the arrest of a Chinese citizen accused of using a hacked drone to take photos of the Vandenberg Space Force Base from a mile up.
"This defendant allegedly flew a drone over a military base and took photos of the base's layout, which is against the law," said United States Attorney Martin Estrada. "The security of our nation is of paramount importance, and my office will continue to promote the safety of our nation’s military personnel and facilities."
Yinpiao Zhou, 39, was arrested Monday, more than a week after drone-detecting equipment spotted the intrusion. There’s no known connection between that case and the New Jersey sightings, leaving residents hungry for answers.
Fox News' Morgan Phillips contributed to this report.
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James Ward, a Jersey Shore Realtor, shared video on Facebook that he said shows "SUV-size drones" above Island Beach State Park taken Sunday. It's difficult to judge their size in the clip, which shows a number of lights hovering in the sky.
"Dozens of SUV-size drones in all directions," the caption says. "Emerging at same time and flying over the ocean and then heading in different directions – what do you think?"
"A good shotgun will fix that problem," one commenter replied.
NEW JERSEY DRONE SIGHTINGS: MILITARY ANALYSTS BREAK DOWN NATIONAL SECURITY CONCERNS, DOUBT HOBBYISTS AT PLAY
"Why hasn't anyone shot one down to look for a serial number to trace it back to the operator?" another wrote. "I would think that could provide a clue."
"Semi auto 3 inch magnum 00 buck full choke!" yet another replied.
Experts warn that it is typically illegal to shoot down a drone flying over a property. The Federal Aviation Administration told Forbes in 2016 that shooting down a drone is illegal under the same federal law prohibiting the sabotage of any other aircraft.
FAA regulations also prohibit the unsafe or unauthorized operation of an aircraft — manned or not.
The talk of taking matters into their own hands came after Gov. Phil Murphy, a Democrat, and two Republican congressmen called on the federal government to shoot down any unidentified drones in the area. Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have been pressing investigators and regulators for answers for weeks.
FBI LEADER SAYS IT'S ‘CONCERNING’ HOW LITTLE HIS AGENCY KNOWS ABOUT MYSTERIOUS DRONES SEEN OVER NEW JERSEY
The source of the drones remains a mystery, and it's not even clear that all of the flying objects are drones and not manned aircraft. Experts note that the navigation lights are a big hint that whoever's flying them isn't trying to keep them hidden.
"Upon review of available imagery, it appears that many of the reported sightings are actually manned aircraft that are being operated lawfully," White House National Security Communications Adviser John Kirby told reporters Thursday.
Many of the reported sightings, however, involve objects that witnesses say look larger than typical retail drones, like the ones spotted above Island Beach State Park.
MYSTERIOUS DRONE SIGHTINGS CONTINUE TO BE REPORTED IN NEW JERSEY WITHOUT ANSWERS
An Army spokesperson told Fox News Digital Picatinny Arsenal had requested and received a temporary flight restriction until Dec. 26 for its airspace as a result of the abundance of reported drone sightings in the area.
The FAA said it is investigating the reported sightings and also issued a temporary flight restriction for the airspace around the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster.
"We look into all reports of unauthorized drone operations and investigate when appropriate," a spokesperson told Fox News Digital. "Drone operators who conduct unsafe operations that endanger other aircraft or people on the ground could face fines up to $75,000. In addition, we can suspend or revoke drone operators’ pilot certificates."
"It is an offense to actually shoot down an aircraft," said James McDanolds, the program chair at the School of Uncrewed Technology at Sonoran Desert Institute. "There are many people in the past that took matters into their own hands, if you will, and shot down a drone, most of them in a small area, even small drones, and have gotten fines and jail time for doing so."
WATCH: NJ rep rips high-ranking officials for dismissing Iran drone speculation
Residents and state officials have been seeking answers for weeks since the sightings first began cropping up in mid-November.
State Sen. Joe Pennacchio, a Republican, even sent a letter to President-elect Trump asking the incoming administration to prioritize an investigation into the matter.
"Local, county, and state law enforcement officials are working diligently trying to find answers," he wrote. "Without these answers we have no idea whether the citizens of our state are safe. Unfortunately, they depend on our federal security agencies for answer and directions. To date, almost a month into their initial sightings no answers have come from those federal agencies."
MANY JERSEY ‘DRONE’ SIGHTINGS ARE LAWFULLY OPERATED MANNED AIRCRAFT, WHITE HOUSE SAYS
In Washington, House Speaker Mike Johnson said he was expecting a classified briefing on the drone mystery Thursday.
FBI leaders had few answers at a public hearing earlier this week.
Asked if Americans are "at risk," FBI Assistant Director of the Critical Incident Response Group Robert Wheeler told Congress, "There is nothing that is known that would lead me to say that, but we just don't know. And that's the concerning part."
A hearing involving the FBI and other law enforcement left state lawmakers unsatisfied earlier this week, with state Rep. Brian Bergen storming out of the meeting and telling NewsNation it was "the biggest waste of five hours in my life."
"They don't know where the drones are coming from, they don't know who's doing it. They don't know why they're doing it," he said. "But they say there's ‘no credible threat.’ It was annoying to be there."
According to Gov. Murphy, there were 49 reports of drones on Sunday alone, mostly in Hunterdon County.
In Southern California Wednesday, federal prosecutors announced the arrest of a Chinese citizen accused of using a hacked drone to take photos of the Vandenberg Space Force Base from a mile up.
"This defendant allegedly flew a drone over a military base and took photos of the base's layout, which is against the law," said United States Attorney Martin Estrada. "The security of our nation is of paramount importance, and my office will continue to promote the safety of our nation’s military personnel and facilities."
Yinpiao Zhou, 39, was arrested Monday, more than a week after drone-detecting equipment spotted the intrusion. There’s no known connection between that case and the New Jersey sightings, leaving residents hungry for answers.
Fox News' Morgan Phillips contributed to this report.
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Re: Drone mystery: New Jersey homeowners threaten to take matters into their own hands if government doesn't act
Never threaten..just do.
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GFB wrote:Never threaten..just do.
Where is Trump? Why isn't he raising holy hell about this? Or is he in on it?
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Re: Drone mystery: New Jersey homeowners threaten to take matters into their own hands if government doesn't act
planosteve wrote:GFB wrote:Never threaten..just do.
Where is Trump? Why isn't he raising holy hell about this? Or is he in on it?
Hey dipwad, we do have a President..and it’s not Trump.
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Re: Drone mystery: New Jersey homeowners threaten to take matters into their own hands if government doesn't act
From John Kirby
WH NS Advisor John Kirby on drone activity in New Jersey: "We have no evidence at this time that the reported drone sightings pose a national security or a public safety threat..We have not been able to...corroborate any of the reported visual sightings."
It's a joke son,I say a joke
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Re: Drone mystery: New Jersey homeowners threaten to take matters into their own hands if government doesn't act
Sangersteve wrote:From John KirbyWH NS Advisor John Kirby on drone activity in New Jersey: "We have no evidence at this time that the reported drone sightings pose a national security or a public safety threat..We have not been able to...corroborate any of the reported visual sightings."
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Re: Drone mystery: New Jersey homeowners threaten to take matters into their own hands if government doesn't act
Someone in NJ needs buy a few of those super bright flashlights I see advertised on FB to light them up. Maybe aim a few laser pointers at them too.
I feel like I'm parked diagonally in a parallel universe.
Re: Drone mystery: New Jersey homeowners threaten to take matters into their own hands if government doesn't act
Shoot first and ask questions later definitely applies here.
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Re: Drone mystery: New Jersey homeowners threaten to take matters into their own hands if government doesn't act
If you do that, they'll know within minutes you did it & where you are. But they still won't know anything about any drones.
I feel like I'm parked diagonally in a parallel universe.
Re: Drone mystery: New Jersey homeowners threaten to take matters into their own hands if government doesn't act
Mark wrote:Shoot first and ask questions later definitely applies here.
Completely
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Re: Drone mystery: New Jersey homeowners threaten to take matters into their own hands if government doesn't act
GRANDPA wrote:If you do that, they'll know within minutes you did it & where you are. But they still won't know anything about any drones.
Sure we will..right away.
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Re: Drone mystery: New Jersey homeowners threaten to take matters into their own hands if government doesn't act
Trump weighs in..
“Mystery Drone sightings all over the Country,” he wrote on his Truth Social platform. “Can this really be happening without our government’s knowledge. I don’t think so! Let the public know, and now. Otherwise, shoot them down!!! DJT”
“Mystery Drone sightings all over the Country,” he wrote on his Truth Social platform. “Can this really be happening without our government’s knowledge. I don’t think so! Let the public know, and now. Otherwise, shoot them down!!! DJT”
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Re: Drone mystery: New Jersey homeowners threaten to take matters into their own hands if government doesn't act
Better start shooting down kites too. They fly in the air.
Re: Drone mystery: New Jersey homeowners threaten to take matters into their own hands if government doesn't act
Who flies kites at night?
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Re: Drone mystery: New Jersey homeowners threaten to take matters into their own hands if government doesn't act
GRANDPA wrote:Who flies kites at night?
Night Kiters
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Re: Drone mystery: New Jersey homeowners threaten to take matters into their own hands if government doesn't act
GRANDPA wrote:Who flies kites at night?
How do you know they’re not flying the same drones during the day? I just don’t understand why someone would proactively shoot down a drone.
A. We don’t know if anything nefarious is going on.
B. Flying a drone, day or night, is not illegal.
C. Shooting them down is.
Re: Drone mystery: New Jersey homeowners threaten to take matters into their own hands if government doesn't act
I think Orson Welles is behind all of this.
Re: Drone mystery: New Jersey homeowners threaten to take matters into their own hands if government doesn't act
I've got a couple of friends that are drone enthusiasts. I'm amazed at some of the stories they tell me about the things they must do to be compliant with the FAA. I had no idea.
The drones being seen in New Jersey are too large to belong to a normal citizen that purchased a drone on Amazon.
One of three things must be true about these drones:
1. They are commercial and are part of some businesses operation.
2. They are part of some operation by some government agency
3. They belong to a foreign government are up to no good.
Based on statements from our government officials, 1 and 2 can be eliminated very quickly. That only leaves number 3.
We have the ability to lock in on one of the drones to follow it and see where it lands. That would go a long way toward explaining who they belong to and what they are doing. Why haven't we done that?
Why is everything about the Brandon administration so inept and incompetent?
Having said all that, since we know that our government lies to us constantly, number 2 above can't be completely dismissed.
The drones being seen in New Jersey are too large to belong to a normal citizen that purchased a drone on Amazon.
One of three things must be true about these drones:
1. They are commercial and are part of some businesses operation.
2. They are part of some operation by some government agency
3. They belong to a foreign government are up to no good.
Based on statements from our government officials, 1 and 2 can be eliminated very quickly. That only leaves number 3.
We have the ability to lock in on one of the drones to follow it and see where it lands. That would go a long way toward explaining who they belong to and what they are doing. Why haven't we done that?
Why is everything about the Brandon administration so inept and incompetent?
Having said all that, since we know that our government lies to us constantly, number 2 above can't be completely dismissed.
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Re: Drone mystery: New Jersey homeowners threaten to take matters into their own hands if government doesn't act
Your right the govt. does lie to us constantly. So, that would be my pick. They are practicing something that they are going to do somewhere else.
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