How Planosteve became such a kookburger/loon/dipwad

[GFB]

..any ideas?

[planosteve]

I can backup everything I say. It's your decision whether to ignore it or not.

[planosteve]

I'm going to post this again since most of you don't have the memory of a nat.
Book Review: JFK vs Allen Dulles

I finally finished the book. It was a hard read. But, painstakingly researched. It met my expectations as maybe the most important book of the last 50 years. I served in the military in SE Asia in the build up to the Viet Nam war. I was pretty certain the war was planned long ahead of time. I had always thought the rational for the war was BS. Now, I'm certain.

Most people don't know squat about Indonesia. It is a 3,000 mile wide country of thousands of islands between SE Asia and Australia governed by the Dutch. Until the 1930's it was largely unexplored. But, exploration in the the 1930's discovered that it was fabulously wealthy in minerals. Few people knew, but Allen Dulles, Chief of the CIA did. And he was tied to the Rockefeller Foundation. His brother, John Foster, was Sec of S under Eisenhower. J.F. K. was a straight arrow. Dulles was a snake.

Allen Dulles was acquainted with George de Mohrenschildt who lived in Dallas and worked for Humble Oil CO. He was a friend of, guess who? Lee Harvey Oswald. Mohrenschildt testified before the Warren Commission and later was killed by a gunshot that was said to be suicide!

JFK wanted the Dutch out of Indonesia and he also wanted Indonesia to have self government. Allen Dulles wanted a US controlled puppet govt who would be anti Communist and let the Rockefellers steal their resources. So, JFK was "eliminated" and it was blamed on Mohrenschildt's friend, Lee Harvey Oswald. Who was a CIA resource.

China saw Indonesia as their back yard. The US wanted Indonesia as theirs with a pro Western Viet Nam as the buffer. That was the reason for the war. But, NV won the war. So, it was a stupid, senseless war where 40,000 Americans died for nothing due mainly to Allen Dulles.

[GRANDPA]

..any ideas?

Now now, be nice. At least he is contributing something to the board, no matter how wild & wacky, no matter how misguided it is, no matter how straight out batshit crazy, no matter how often he confuses looser & loser, no matter how the thin Colorado air affects his thinking, no matter that we think he is either off his meds or overdosed on them, no matter how we often think, "What the hell is wrong with you, PSteve?"

OK, Steve, here is where you can say, "Thank you, Grandpa for your eloquent words.", or "OK, Grandpa, you can quit 'defending' me now."

[planosteve]

I am 84 years old. That is why I have memory problems. That and Colorado beer. But, I don't drink anymore.

[GRANDPA]

I'm going to post this again since most of you don't have the memory of a nat.
Book Review: JFK vs Allen Dulles

I finally finished the book. It was a hard read. But, painstakingly researched. It met my expectations as maybe the most important book of the last 50 years. I served in the military in SE Asia in the build up to the Viet Nam war. I was pretty certain the war was planned long ahead of time. I had always thought the rational for the war was BS. Now, I'm certain.

Most people don't know squat about Indonesia. It is a 3,000 mile wide country of thousands of islands between SE Asia and Australia governed by the Dutch. Until the 1930's it was largely unexplored. But, exploration in the the 1930's discovered that it was fabulously wealthy in minerals. Few people knew, but Allen Dulles, Chief of the CIA did. And he was tied to the Rockefeller Foundation. His brother, John Foster, was Sec of S under Eisenhower. J.F. K. was a straight arrow. Dulles was a snake.

Allen Dulles was acquainted with George de Mohrenschildt who lived in Dallas and worked for Humble Oil CO. He was a friend of, guess who? Lee Harvey Oswald. Mohrenschildt testified before the Warren Commission and later was killed by a gunshot that was said to be suicide!

JFK wanted the Dutch out of Indonesia and he also wanted Indonesia to have self government. Allen Dulles wanted a US controlled puppet govt who would be anti Communist and let the Rockefellers steal their resources. So, JFK was "eliminated" and it was blamed on Mohrenschildt's friend, Lee Harvey Oswald. Who was a CIA resource.

China saw Indonesia as their back yard. The US wanted Indonesia as theirs with a pro Western Viet Nam as the buffer. That was the reason for the war. But, NV won the war. So, it was a stupid, senseless war where 40,000 Americans died for nothing due mainly to Allen Dulles.

Indonesia became independent from the Netherlands in 1949, so by the time JFK came along, the Dutch were long gone from there. Dealy Plaza was crowded enough & you want to add the Indonesians there too? Robert McNamara deserves just as much blame, if not much more, than Dulles. I certainly blame him for my brother's death in Quang Tri province.

[planosteve]

I'm going to post this again since most of you don't have the memory of a nat.
Book Review: JFK vs Allen Dulles

I finally finished the book. It was a hard read. But, painstakingly researched. It met my expectations as maybe the most important book of the last 50 years. I served in the military in SE Asia in the build up to the Viet Nam war. I was pretty certain the war was planned long ahead of time. I had always thought the rational for the war was BS. Now, I'm certain.

Most people don't know squat about Indonesia. It is a 3,000 mile wide country of thousands of islands between SE Asia and Australia governed by the Dutch. Until the 1930's it was largely unexplored. But, exploration in the the 1930's discovered that it was fabulously wealthy in minerals. Few people knew, but Allen Dulles, Chief of the CIA did. And he was tied to the Rockefeller Foundation. His brother, John Foster, was Sec of S under Eisenhower. J.F. K. was a straight arrow. Dulles was a snake.

Allen Dulles was acquainted with George de Mohrenschildt who lived in Dallas and worked for Humble Oil CO. He was a friend of, guess who? Lee Harvey Oswald. Mohrenschildt testified before the Warren Commission and later was killed by a gunshot that was said to be suicide!

JFK wanted the Dutch out of Indonesia and he also wanted Indonesia to have self government. Allen Dulles wanted a US controlled puppet govt who would be anti Communist and let the Rockefellers steal their resources. So, JFK was "eliminated" and it was blamed on Mohrenschildt's friend, Lee Harvey Oswald. Who was a CIA resource.

China saw Indonesia as their back yard. The US wanted Indonesia as theirs with a pro Western Viet Nam as the buffer. That was the reason for the war. But, NV won the war. So, it was a stupid, senseless war where 40,000 Americans died for nothing due mainly to Allen Dulles.

Indonesia became independent from the Netherlands in 1949, so by the time JFK came along, the Dutch were long gone from there. Dealy Plaza was crowded enough & you want to add the Indonesians there too? Robert McNamara deserves just as much blame, if not much more, than Dulles. I certainly blame him for my brother's death in Quang Tri province.

Sorry for your brother's death. But, check the reviews, then read the book. You will be impressed. I guarantee it. Later, I'll tell you about the war in Laos that you've never even heard of, fought from the base we built in Thailand called Nakon Phanom.

[GRANDPA]

Even as a kid, I knew where Laos was & that we were involved in some way. It seemed that JFK talked more about it than Vietnam.

[Kiamichi]

I very strongly suspect it is just an online pose.

[rusty]

Actuallly, I admire Steve. He may have some kooky ideas, but in the age of Trump what exaclty is kookie? Trump's as kooky as they come, but the MAGAs don't want to see that, and what's worse, they don't care.

Steve does his research, and although it might be suspect at times, he''s not walking lock-step with the MAGAs. At lease he's trying to think outside the box, unlike some people who are totally in the MYGA box.

What are the MAGAs thinking? They believe every DAMN thing Trump says.What's up with that? Do you guys havethat bia ring in your nose?, Are you girly men? Prove me wrong.

Hell, when Biden was president I didn't believe everythiong he said, and I called him out on it, What's up with these MAGAs?. Sounds pretty much like a cult to me.

I've necer EVER seen anyone who has all the answers, And I've never really known anybody, until now, that believe every friggin' word a politicians espouses,

[GRANDPA]

Forever Trumpers are just as annoying as Never Trumpers.

[planosteve]

..any ideas?

Now now, be nice. At least he is contributing something to the board, no matter how wild & wacky, no matter how misguided it is, no matter how straight out batshit crazy, no matter how often he confuses looser & loser, no matter how the thin Colorado air affects his thinking, no matter that we think he is either off his meds or overdosed on them, no matter how we often think, "What the hell is wrong with you, PSteve?"

OK, Steve, here is where you can say, "Thank you, Grandpa for your eloquent words.", or "OK, Grandpa, you can quit 'defending' me now."

The check's in the mail.