Same sex marriage in Travis County

[millergrovesue]

God bless them. 30 years, 2 children, and a cancer diagnosis. The flood gates have been opened no matter what the officials say "The county clerk confirmed on Thursday that, because the order is limited to just this couple, Travis County will not be issuing marriage licenses to any other same-sex couples at this time."

I can't wait to attend the wedding of my brother and my brother of our family's hearts.

[crocmommy]

I'm happy for your brother Sue.

[millergrovesue]

Thanks, for your comment, Croc.

It hasn't happened yet but we are a giant step closer. They say they won't marry till they can do it in Texas.

Meanwhile thank goodness they both have loving families who would honor their wishes should one or both of them die. That is not the case with many many gay couples. I've witness a number of situations in which the family has taken out their hostility on the partner left behind. It's devastating and cruel beyond measure.

[Red Oak]

I give polygamy and polyandary 5 to 10 years tops, before it is forced on the citizens by Feral Judges.

[crocmommy]

Thanks, for your comment, Croc.

It hasn't happened yet but we are a giant step closer. They say they won't marry till they can do it in Texas.

Meanwhile thank goodness they both have loving families who would honor their wishes should one or both of them die. That is not the case with many many gay couples. I've witness a number of situations in which the family has taken out their hostility on the partner left behind. It's devastating and cruel beyond measure.

That would be a very sad situation Sue. I can't say I will ever understand homosexuality. But I have someone in my family who I am pretty sure he is gay. I just wish he would drop the charade and come out with it. It would be easier than dealing with the wall he keeps around him.

[LibraryLady]

If your family member feels it is safe to come out, I think he will. If he knows everyone's heads will explode, then he'll stay in the closet.

I have a lesbian friend who is going to NM to wed on March 3rd.
I have a couple of gay men friends who are just waiting for it to be legal in Texas.......One couple has been together 40 years.

I don't see how the SC can do anything but say it is legal everywhere. Clarence Thomas has hinted that the ruling will be "its is legal."

[GFB]

That will be tragic if they do that.

Denying the states the ability to decide if they wish to allow it would be legislating from the bench..a deeply unAmerican and unConstitutional endeavor.

[BigTex]

We can save a lot of money by not funding state legislatures if all the laws are going to come from Washington.

[millergrovesue]

That will be tragic if they do that.

Denying the states the ability to decide if they wish to allow it would be legislating from the bench..a deeply unAmerican and unConstitutional endeavor.

Like it hasn't been done before............many times.

I only know what I believe with all my heart. People who are committed to their partners deserve protection under the law regardless of sexual orientation. They believe marriage is the only way to achieve that protection and I am not one to question the wisdom of those who have lived the negative.

I know only the hearts and minds of those I have/do know and love and I believe changes in the law are necessary.

God bless us and give us grace in situations that are outside of our comfort zone.

[millergrovesue]

I give polygamy and polyandary 5 to 10 years tops, before it is forced on the citizens by Feral Judges.

I call crap on that.

[GFB]

That will be tragic if they do that.

Denying the states the ability to decide if they wish to allow it would be legislating from the bench..a deeply unAmerican and unConstitutional endeavor.

Like it hasn't been done before............many times.

It has been done before..but this would be the most flagrant legislating since Roe vs Wade.

[millergrovesue]

Thanks, for your comment, Croc.

It hasn't happened yet but we are a giant step closer. They say they won't marry till they can do it in Texas.

Meanwhile thank goodness they both have loving families who would honor their wishes should one or both of them die. That is not the case with many many gay couples. I've witness a number of situations in which the family has taken out their hostility on the partner left behind. It's devastating and cruel beyond measure.

That would be a very sad situation Sue. I can't say I will ever understand homosexuality. But I have someone in my family who I am pretty sure he is gay. I just wish he would drop the charade and come out with it. It would be easier than dealing with the wall he keeps around him.

I'd bet he keeps the wall because he believes he would be judged for reality.

My brother never officially "came out" to the family. It was obvious for many many years. At some point he, my sister, and I discussed it and he was very emotional. My Mom and Dad came to accept that their beloved son was gay and knew that they loved him no matter what. The fact that my brother's long term partner is a dear, sweet, completely loveable man only added to the joy that they have - and what we all long to have - unconditional love and commitment.

[GFB]

God bless us and give us grace in situations that are outside of our comfort zone.

My comfot zone includes plenty of gay people..sometimes even prefer their company.

Marriage however, is being flushed down the toilet. Red Oak is right.

Did you see the woman that married herself recently? She had a fairly big wedding..lots of friends and relatives came.

The one thing more than anything else that holds society together..is traditional marriage.

It holds it together so well, that gay people can grow up..succeed..and understand all of this just as well as anyone.

I am however, a states rights guy..the country deserves to see what happens in states that honor traditional marriage as compared to those that allow anyone to marry anyone..I don't think the future will be as bright for those states.

[Kiamichi]

I give polygamy and polyandary 5 to 10 years tops, before it is forced on the citizens by Feral Judges.

I call crap on that.

What possible legal argument can be made against polygamy if gay marriage is to be legal? If we have no right to tell a person he can't marry a member of the same sex--an idea that has come into existence only in the last few decades--how can we tell him he can't be married at the same time to two or more persons of the opposite sex, something that is the cultural norm now in a large part of the world and has been in most cultures at some point?

As I have said before, my main objection to legal civil homosexual unions, aside from child custody questions, is that the hidden driving force behind the movement is just to provide yet another avenue for immigration fraud, but immigration enforcement has been so weakened that fraud is hardly necessary any more.

[Red Oak]

I give polygamy and polyandary 5 to 10 years tops, before it is forced on the citizens by Feral Judges.

I call crap on that.

Are you going to deny them their 'Rights' to marry the ones they 'love' ?

It is cracked wide open now, anything goes.

[GFB]

I give polygamy and polyandary 5 to 10 years tops, before it is forced on the citizens by Feral Judges.

I call crap on that.

Are you going to deny them their 'Rights' to marry the ones they 'love' ?

It is cracked wide open now, anything goes.

Yes, once the word no longer has specific meaning...

[Red Oak]

Emotion is not something to base Law upon.

The marriage contract was designed to protect the interests and rights of two unequals joining together, two equals don't need it. Men and Women are unequal, two men or two women are equal, in general.

[jellowrestling]

I don't have much to add to what Red Oak, GFB and Kiamichi have said.

Roe v Wade is a great example of what happens when the SC legislates from the bench. Is any decent person OK with over 40 million children being slaughtered in the womb? I think that was an unintended consequence; I think the Supremes would have ruled differently if they had known what the consequences would be.

The Colorado marijuana experiment is a great example of states' rights. We get to see what happens when pot is legal without turning the whole country upside down. "Gay marriage" is the same sort of socially transforming issue with far-reaching, long-term consequences that should be left up to the States, as the Constitution mandates.

[millergrovesue]

Emotion is not something to base Law upon.

The marriage contract was designed to protect the interests and rights of two unequals joining together, two equals don't need it. Men and Women are unequal, two men or two women are equal, in general.

Huh? Strange, I thought the marriage contract was a pledge to and with God to love, protect, honor, lift up, and care for the other till death.

[Kiamichi]

Emotion is not something to base Law upon.

The marriage contract was designed to protect the interests and rights of two unequals joining together, two equals don't need it. Men and Women are unequal, two men or two women are equal, in general.

Huh? Strange, I thought the marriage contract was a pledge to and with God to love, protect, honor, lift up, and care for the other till death.

A civil marriage is a legal contract, without religion having anything to do with it.