German Airliner Crashes in French Alps 148 likely dead

[BigTex]

I read online that it was shot down by Malaysian Air 370. But somebody took the post down. So it must be true.

[John in Plano]

Still no mention by the MSM that the A320 airbus has an "anti hijack" system which can be used to control the aircraft remotely. This was the only aircraft that still has the system. It was disabled on other aircraft after 9/11. They left it on the A320 since it was considered to be unhackable. Maybe not.
Also, no mention of the witness that observed fighter A/C in the area at the same time. That info was also scrubbed from the internet.
Cockpit voice recorder recovered but is badly damaged. No way to know if it can be used or if it can that they will ever release the information on it.
Indication is that it was intentionally flown straight down at max speed directly into the mountain and impacted at 400 to 600 MPH. It is so rugged that copters can't land. Workers have to be lowered to the ground by cable. This is going to take a long time.

According to a retired piloted I saw interviewed yesterday the A320 is a fly by wire plane with a known issue with the pitot tubes. If they freeze over operating on auto-pilot the pilots will not be able to take control . There is video of a airbus flying into the ground, because the test pilot did a low fly by, tried to bring up power and the fly by wire system didn't allow him.

[Kiamichi]

Reports so far are clear that it drifted downward slowly over a period of eight minutes, with no communication with the cockpit. At this point my money is on loss of pressurization causing all occupants to lose consciousness, which has caused several similar crashes before now.

[planosteve]

I don't believe people that commit suicide generally try to take out other people with them. In fact I
think it is very uncommon and maybe unheard of to take out that many innocents. So, I am not buying this story.
It's Horse Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

[Kiamichi]

It is now revealed that the passengers were aware for at least five minutes that the co-pilot had hijacked the plane:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... /70626170/

Within minutes, Bild describes a loud bang as someone attempts to enter the cockpit, then Sondheimer yells, "For God's sake, open the door!" Passengers are heard screaming.

At 10:35 a.m., more banging, and less than two minutes later the pilot is heard yelling "Open the goddam door!"

At 10:40 a.m., the right wing of the jet clips a mountain and the last sounds are those of passengers screaming. Bild reports.

[ralph]

it was a nasty trip !!

[BigTex]

"I don't believe people that commit suicide generally try to take out other people with them. In fact I think it is very uncommon and maybe unheard of to take out that many innocents."

. . . . said no suicide bomber ever.

[GFB]

"I don't believe people that commit suicide generally try to take out other people with them. In fact I think it is very uncommon and maybe unheard of to take out that many innocents."

. . . . said no suicide bomber ever.

"Suicide bomber" is a highly inaccurate phrase.

These are people that have the goal of mass murder..blowing themselves up is the means.

This appears to be someone like them..mass murder was the goal...the fact that he did it in a way that killed himself, too..just like with the "exploding Muslims"..is fairly academic.

[planosteve]

In a study of people who commit suicide and try to take other people with them, the reason is most always because their country has been invaded and occupied by a foreign power. I don't think Germany is currently occupied. Robert Pape did the study and wrote the book about it.
I am still reading conflicting information about whether the cockpit door can be locked from the inside with no possible way to open it. If so that needs to change.

[Just Me]

Here's one for the conspiracy theorists out there:

Hacked: Did You Really Think Cockpit Door Was Locked?
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03/27/350535/

[planosteve]

Here's one for the conspiracy theorists out there:

Hacked: Did You Really Think Cockpit Door Was Locked?
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03/27/350535/

"In all likelihood"
When you begin an article with weasel words........Hmmmm

They know this guy was still breathing when the plane crashed. But, they don't know that he was conscious. I think he wasn't or else there would have been marked changes just before the crash. If you knew it was your last minute on earth wouldn't you be at least somewhat anxious?

[millergrovesue]

Just heard the guy had been on anti psychotic injectable drugs. Gosh, I'm all for medical privacy....... BUT when you have hundreds of lives in your hands as part of your job I think your employers.......heck and passengers..........should know that you have a severe mental illness. What a sad story that all those people died because of medical privacy laws. The families must be furious!

[planosteve]

I don't think this guy said a word that was picked up by the cockpit mike. That's why I think he was unconscious. Not even a final "Goodby Cruel World!".
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[GFB]

I don't think this guy said a word that was picked up by the cockpit mike. That's why I think he was unconscious. Not even a final "Goodby Cruel World!".
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He had to ignore a guy that was taking an axe to the cockpit door.

..and he had to continually block the Captain from using a code to get in.

[planosteve]

I don't think this guy said a word that was picked up by the cockpit mike. That's why I think he was unconscious. Not even a final "Goodby Cruel World!".
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He had to ignore a guy that was taking an axe to the cockpit door.

..and he had to continually block the Captain from using a code to get in.

How do you explain his heart rate and breathing were normal right up to when they crashed?

[GFB]

I don't think this guy said a word that was picked up by the cockpit mike. That's why I think he was unconscious. Not even a final "Goodby Cruel World!".
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He had to ignore a guy that was taking an axe to the cockpit door.

..and he had to continually block the Captain from using a code to get in.

How do you explain his heart rate and breathing were normal right up to when they crashed?

Things were going his way..why shouldn't he be calm.

[planosteve]

Things were going his way..why shouldn't he be calm.

The mind can't control the heart beat. There is no evidence that he was conscious other than for a short time after the other pilot left the cockpit.

[GFB]

Things were going his way..why shouldn't he be calm.

The mind can't control the heart beat. There is no evidence that he was conscious other than for a short time after the other pilot left the cockpit.

Sorry, but you would need evidence that he suddenly went UNconscious..there was none.

(the basis for all conspiracies.."NO evidence")

[planosteve]

Things were going his way..why shouldn't he be calm.

The mind can't control the heart beat. There is no evidence that he was conscious other than for a short time after the other pilot left the cockpit.

Sorry, but you would need evidence that he suddenly went UNconscious..there was none.

(the basis for all conspiracies.."NO evidence")

Not for 9/11. That was what Bldg 7 was. Conclusive evidence of demolition.
Not for JFK. Zapruter film was evidence that a shot came from the front.

[GFB]

So what's your evidence here?