mandatory water restrictions in california

[Red Oak]

Southern Kaliforniastan is a friggin Desert; after a hundred plus years of fighting over water you might think that idea would sink in a little

[GFB]

Southern Kaliforniastan is a friggin Desert; after a hundred plus years of fighting over water you might think that idea would sink in a little

So is Israel..you should see how lovely an green it is compared to all the scummy neighbors.

And property values in this friggin' California desert are higher now than they were in 2006..height of the real estate bubble.

..except this time..it's not cheap loans to people that shouldn't own homes and could never pay for them.

..it's high earners moving in here.

[Red Oak]

It isn't my problem or concern Greg, I am certain the State and Local Guberment in California will work it all out; when you are looking for a place out on the Salt Fork, let me know !

[grouchy]

Different strokes for different folks.

Silly, silly, shallow.

[GFB]

It isn't my problem or concern Greg, I am certain the State and Local Guberment in California will work it all out; when you are looking for a place out on the Salt Fork, let me know !

I don't know..sounds like there won't be any water for the government to control!

[Red Oak]

Good point !

[jellowrestling]

Seems to me it's about drought. The government has no control over that. To my thinking crops for the nation at reasonable prices are vastly more important than a square of green grass. I see it as caring for the welfare of our fellow humans at least as much as we care for ourselves.

No, the government is the cause of all shortages..put them in charge of the Sahara desert..they'll be a shortage of sand in no time.

Private enterprise would find a hundred different ways to bring all the water I need.

+1 California gets almost 500,000 gallons of rain per acre annually (10 gallons per sq. ft.). If the government were competent, it would figure out how to make that work.

[BigTex]

Any chance somebody in California will stumble upon the practice of journalism and keep track of Jerry Brown's water bill?

[jellowrestling]

Any chance somebody in California will stumble upon the practice of journalism and keep track of Jerry Brown's water bill?

LOL. GOOD ONE!
Um, no.

[GFB]

..and now the wars begin.

80% of water usage in California is for agriculture..and they are not being asked to conserve, of
course.

I have no dog in this fight..don't give a darn who conserves and who doesn't..nor do I plan to participate in any potential water battles..I' m just going to have every inch of my 6350 sq ft lot remain green, tailored..and generally spic and span.

..so help me God!

(can you still say that?..or am I being hateful now)

[Red Oak]

Quite a Ponderosa Greg.

[John in Plano]

Seems to me it's about drought. The government has no control over that. To my thinking crops for the nation at reasonable prices are vastly more important than a square of green grass. I see it as caring for the welfare of our fellow humans at least as much as we care for ourselves.

No, the government is the cause of all shortages..put them in charge of the Sahara desert..they'll be a shortage of sand in no time.

Private enterprise would find a hundred different ways to bring all the water I need.

+1 California gets almost 500,000 gallons of rain per acre annually (10 gallons per sq. ft.). If the government were competent, it would figure out how to make that work.

If my math is correct...1 inch per acre of rain = approx 27000 gallons , 500,000 gallon per acre is less than 19 inches of rain. That a lot more rain than I remember most of southern CA receiving in a year.

Where did you get that number jello ?

[GFB]

During normal years, the state should replenish reservoirs. However, environmental regulations require that about 4.4 million acre-feet of water—enough to sustain 4.4 million families and irrigate one million acres of farmland—be diverted to ecological purposes. Even in dry years, hundreds of thousands of acre feet of runoff are flushed into San Francisco Bay to protect fish in the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta.

During the last two winters amid the drought, regulators let more than 2.6 million acre-feet out into the bay. The reason: California lacked storage capacity north of the delta, and environmental rules restrict water pumping to reservoirs south. After heavy rains doused northern California this February, the State Water Resources Control Board dissipated tens of thousands of more acre-feet. Every smelt matters.

Increased surface storage would give regulators more latitude to conserve water during heavy storm-flows and would have allowed the state to stockpile larger reserves during the 15 years that preceded the last drought. Yet no major water infrastructure project has been completed in California since the 1960s.

Money is not the obstacle. Since 2000 voters have approved five bonds authorizing $22 billion in spending for water improvements. Environmental projects have been the biggest winners. In 2008 the legislature established a “Strategic Growth Council” to steer some bond proceeds to affordable housing and “sustainable land use” (e.g., reduced carbon emissions and suburban sprawl).

Meantime, green groups won’t allow new storage regardless—and perhaps because—of the benefits. California’s Department of Water Resources calculates that the proposed Sites Reservoir, which has been in the planning stages since the 1980s, could provide enough additional water during droughts to sustain seven million Californians for a year. Given the regulatory climate, Gov. Brown’s bullet train will probably be built first.

Once beloved by greens, desalination has likewise become unfashionable. After six years of permitting and litigation, the company Poseidon this year will finally complete a $1 billion desalination facility that will augment San Diego County’s water supply by 7%. Most other desalination projects have been abandoned.

[ralph]

watching the news and the reports are making it look like California is drying up . Looks pretty severe from the reports . Pictures of parched earth and dried brown vegetation being flashed . The 'push' by jerry brown has begun !!

[GFB]

As always..it's the government that screwed everything up.

[ralph]

they are trying to fix things now though , gotta give 'jer' and the rest of the rulers some credit !!

[planosteve]

If the govt. was In charge of the money we'd be 18 trillion in debt by now.

........oh wait!

[GFB]

they are trying to fix things now though , gotta give 'jer' and the rest of the rulers some credit !!

No they're not.

They're punishing people for their stupid environmental pet projects.

[ralph]

[planosteve]

By fall when there are no fruits or vegetables to buy in the stores, Greg will still be able to enjoy a nice salad after he mows his lawn.