show me Proof that you BLED as you fought mrobama

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I heard it also , wasn't impressed at all but you are correct as he did harp on his immigrant tale .

Honestly, Ralph..I don't see how anyone that calls themself an American..could not be moved by a story like his.

[ralph]

well , moved in what way , guys family had it tough , lots of families had it tough and it was private business related within the family but that's about it . Nowadays its just a move by politicians to garner support and support of PC causes imo !! All he is saying is , hey I like immigrants . bush does it , mrobama does it and now Rubio does it , yeah , I'm not impressed !!

[Red Oak]

Here ya go Gregg !

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well , moved in what way , guys family had it tough , lots of families had it tough and it was private business related within the family but that's about it . Nowadays its just a move by politicians to garner support and support of PC causes imo !! All he is saying is , hey I like immigrants . bush does it , mrobama does it and now Rubio does it , yeah , I'm not impressed !!

No..he freely says they DIDN'T have it tough..as soon as they arrived in America..things started working out beautifully.

..not wealthy, of course..but that's not always everything..especially after you escape tyranny.

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Here ya go Gregg !

Whatever it is..it didn't post.

[ralph]

like I say , I'm not interested in any politicians immigrant history , especially a politicians immigrant history , none of my business . I'll watch him but he sounds pro immigrant to me , same as Hilary and mrobama and the 'boosh' !!

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like I say , I'm not interested in any politicians immigrant history , especially a politicians immigrant history , none of my business . I'll watch him but he sounds pro immigrant to me , same as Hilary and mrobama and the 'boosh' !!

I so cannot relate to not appreciating stories of American immigrant success stories.

I wonder if you really understand the history of your country.

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For me, those are always the best "American" stories.

[Red Oak]

From the Land of opportunity to the Land of the Welfare magnet.

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From the Land of opportunity to the Land of the Welfare magnet.

Blame liberalism..not immigrants.

[Red Oak]

Yep.

And the Libs will squeal like a shoat under a gate if immigration or handouts are reduced.

[Red Oak]

The information you wanted is in the link about 4 or 5 charts down.

[ralph]

I blame USA government both rino and demo --- http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_27880247/ ... 00-syrians --- immigrants both legal and illegal plus so called child refugees being shipped / flown into the USA from south of the border plus refugees from 'syria' . And what was the deal with S . american children riding on the tops of trains or walking 1500 miles to walk across the southern border undeterred , think it was last summer ??

[ralph]

and 'hmong' in Wisconsin , Somalis in Minnesota and children from south of the border 'flown' to illegal familes throughout the USA according to articles that I've seen .

[ralph]

Somalis in Lewiston Maine --- http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=130098&page=1 ---

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Besides the myriad of other beneficial reasons..we will always NEED immigrants..always.

Even with modest economic growth, we don't create enough people.

In normal economic times, a minimum 50,000 people per month have to be brought in.

Without them, the labor force would tighten so dramatically..well, THAT would be devastating.

As for Somalis..or any Muslims..as long as we are in denial about the dangers of Islam..people like that will be viewed just like any others.

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Think about it..let's say every couple has two kids, and we constantly replace people that die off with an equal number of babies.

Can you, Ralph, think about what it means for an economy to grow?..it means more jobs..even more industries.

Unless you're like Obama, and want more and more people just living on the dole..food stamps..free health care..free everything..you instead want people to work.

When a business is successful, more workers are needed..then some of them eventually employ people on their own..and so on.

There is no such thing as a completely stagnant economy..not for long anyhow..economies either grow or contract.

Grow...good.

Contract..very, very bad.

[Red Oak]

The world is changing Greggo, via technology and automation we don't need the number of people in the work force going forward, as we did just a few years ago; and going forward we will need even fewer. Most legal immigrants into the US the US today are admitted on the basis of who they are related to (chain migration), not any benefit that they might be to us. Pull you head out, it is not 1910.

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The world is changing Greggo, via technology and automation we don't need the number of people in the work force going forward, as we did just a few years ago; and going forward we will need even fewer. Most legal immigrants into the US the US today are admitted on the basis of who they are related to (chain migration), not any benefit that they might be to us. Pull you head out, it is not 1910.

So, assuming the economy continues to grow and grow, we will need fewer workers?

The economy in 1910 was miniscule compared to what we have today..you have it backwards.

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The economy demands far, far more people working then was needed 100 years ago.