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Teacher suspended for remark about Christianity

Postby BigTex » Fri May 08, 2015 2:17 pm

I may be completely misreading this, but it looks like to me this teacher just got a lesson in how you can't have it both ways. If we want Christianity out of the schools, then you can't bring it up. Ever.

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Re: Teacher suspended for remark about Christianity

Postby millergrovesue » Fri May 08, 2015 2:35 pm

Stupid poorly thought out..........if it was thought out at all............comment. Don't know that it's suspension worthy but it was a stupid comment - especially stupid to be saying in a public school.
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Re: Teacher suspended for remark about Christianity

Postby BigTex » Fri May 08, 2015 7:25 pm

The story has been updated to say that he has been reinstated.

If he's such a great teacher, maybe he could have found a way to make his point without going to Christianity. It's a public school, after all. But come to think of it, he might not have a job if it weren't for those affluent Christians who contribute to his salary through their property taxes.

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Re: Teacher suspended for remark about Christianity

Postby BillB » Fri May 08, 2015 7:44 pm

I agree with the teacher, but he should be teaching that in Sunday School, not public school.

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Re: Teacher suspended for remark about Christianity

Postby millergrovesue » Fri May 08, 2015 8:04 pm

BigTex wrote:The story has been updated to say that he has been reinstated.

If he's such a great teacher, maybe he could have found a way to make his point without going to Christianity. It's a public school, after all. But come to think of it, he might not have a job if it weren't for those affluent Christians who contribute to his salary through their property taxes.


And without asserting his interpretation of the Bible as fact. The Bible ain't all as cut and dried as some would choose to believe. This is the principle error of belief systems like fundamentalism. The guy needs to learn to keep his personal religious "truths" within his personal believer community.
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Re: Teacher suspended for remark about Christianity

Postby Red Oak » Fri May 08, 2015 8:27 pm

As long as he states it is his opinion, doesn't force it on his students, or persecute them for believing something different it is fine by me.

We have too damn many Totalitarians stifling free thought in my opinion.

The guy is a Sociology Teacher, and probably to the Left of Lenin, what do expect him to say and think ?
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Re: Teacher suspended for remark about Christianity

Postby BigTex » Fri May 08, 2015 8:53 pm

Red Oak, if another teacher at the school tells her class that in her opinion anyone who doesn't believe Jesus is the son of God and will go straight to Hell, does she get through the rest of the school day before she is suspended? Does she get through the rest of the period?

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Re: Teacher suspended for remark about Christianity

Postby Red Oak » Fri May 08, 2015 8:55 pm

They would be tossed out on their ass quicker than you could blink, in my opinion.
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Re: Teacher suspended for remark about Christianity

Postby BillB » Fri May 08, 2015 10:38 pm

Red Oak wrote:As long as he states it is his opinion, doesn't force it on his students, or persecute them for believing something different it is fine by me.

We have too damn many Totalitarians stifling free thought in my opinion.

The guy is a Sociology Teacher, and probably to the Left of Lenin, what do expect him to say and think ?


I don't think it has anything to do with left or right.
Jesus told the rich man to sell everything he had and give the money to the poor.
How many Christians do you know who have done that?
I don't know any. I haven't done it and I claim to be a Christian.
I think the guy is right. As a general rule, Christians do not practice Christianity.

While I agree with what he is saying, that message belongs in church. It doesn't belong in public schools.
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Re: Teacher suspended for remark about Christianity

Postby Red Oak » Fri May 08, 2015 10:52 pm

I have known a few that have, not many.

I certainly haven't, but I am not Rich, and I am a very poor Christian, unlike many I will admit it.

This is a High School Teacher, and by then the students should expect to have their beliefs challenged a little, as long as they are not ridiculed or persecuted. I'll bet a dollar to a donut this Cat is a lefty loon that doesn't think too highly of Conservative Christians. Gooberment Schools are full of them and they get a pass.
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Re: Teacher suspended for remark about Christianity

Postby BigTex » Sat May 09, 2015 8:04 am

All I want is consistency. If you can't promote Christianity in a public school, you can't denigrate it either.

And people shouldn't be coming to this guy's defense because he knew the rules and he broke them.

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Re: Teacher suspended for remark about Christianity

Postby BillB » Sat May 09, 2015 8:18 am

BigTex wrote:All I want is consistency. If you can't promote Christianity in a public school, you can't denigrate it either.

And people shouldn't be coming to this guy's defense because he knew the rules and he broke them.


I don't necessarily agree that he was denigrating Christianity.

I can easily imagine Rev. Billy Graham saying that Christians don't give enough to the poor. As far as I can tell that's all the guy said.

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Re: Teacher suspended for remark about Christianity

Postby Red Oak » Sat May 09, 2015 8:55 am

BigTex wrote:All I want is consistency. If you can't promote Christianity in a public school, you can't denigrate it either.

And people shouldn't be coming to this guy's defense because he knew the rules and he broke them.


That would be great, but I don't see it ever happening with the current group that runs education.
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Re: Teacher suspended for remark about Christianity

Postby GFB » Sat May 09, 2015 9:23 am

BillB wrote:
Red Oak wrote:Jesus told the rich man to sell everything he had and give the money to the poor.


How would anyone know for sure what Jesus said.
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Re: Teacher suspended for remark about Christianity

Postby Red Oak » Sat May 09, 2015 9:48 am

That is a dilemma, it takes a level of faith.

Christians better prepare themselves for persecution, especially for their children and grandchildren, they are in for a tough time if they don't deny the tenets of their faith, observant Jews are in for an even tougher time.

The Courts, radical Sodomites, and Muslims are going to rule, it seems.
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Re: Teacher suspended for remark about Christianity

Postby BigTex » Sat May 09, 2015 9:49 am

BillB wrote:
BigTex wrote:All I want is consistency. If you can't promote Christianity in a public school, you can't denigrate it either.

And people shouldn't be coming to this guy's defense because he knew the rules and he broke them.


I don't necessarily agree that he was denigrating Christianity.

I can easily imagine Rev. Billy Graham saying that Christians don't give enough to the poor. As far as I can tell that's all the guy said.


I'm talking about in the public school setting. Christianity is either out or in.

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Re: Teacher suspended for remark about Christianity

Postby millergrovesue » Sat May 09, 2015 9:54 am

BillB wrote:
BigTex wrote:All I want is consistency. If you can't promote Christianity in a public school, you can't denigrate it either.

And people shouldn't be coming to this guy's defense because he knew the rules and he broke them.


I don't necessarily agree that he was denigrating Christianity.

I can easily imagine Rev. Billy Graham saying that Christians don't give enough to the poor. As far as I can tell that's all the guy said.


I don't think Billy would have gone so far as to call them hypocrites. That's, to me, what makes his statement unacceptable.

Far as him being a far leftie - I doubt it. If he were he'd be advocating for the government to empty its coffers and give all the money to the poor. That seems to be the mentality. "We want them taken care of but we don't want to spend our own money. Let the government do it."

There are many references in the Bible to how we are to treat the poor. The Bible is clear that we are to love others and help those in need and that we are saved by faith and not by works.
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Re: Teacher suspended for remark about Christianity

Postby GFB » Sat May 09, 2015 9:58 am

If what he said is..that Christians don't give enough to the poor, it sounds as if this guy is some kind of over the TOP Christian..the kind that likes to tell everyone what the right "way" is.
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Re: Teacher suspended for remark about Christianity

Postby BigTex » Sat May 09, 2015 10:10 am

Unfortunately, the Morning News story is a little short on context. It would help to know what point the teacher was attempting to make. This was a sociology class.

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Re: Teacher suspended for remark about Christianity

Postby millergrovesue » Sat May 09, 2015 10:43 am

GFB wrote:If what he said is..that Christians don't give enough to the poor, it sounds as if this guy is some kind of over the TOP Christian..the kind that likes to tell everyone what the right "way" is.


That's exactly how it stuck me. Then I went back and read the second article.
"Carter Henderson, a student who started an online petition to reinstate Stagemeyer, said classmates told him that the teacher said he thinks Christians who don’t give as much to the poor as they can are hypocritical. One of Stagemeyer’s students wrote on Twitter that 'the bible says to give as much to the poor as you can and he believed that not all Christians do that.'”

Apparently this all boils down hearsay and leaves me wondering what the guy really said. I have no problem with the second statement because it's probably true.
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