Muslims and the Koran

[grouchy]

I have been sitting here thinking about things and letting my mind wander.
We have all heard that the Koran is all about hate, jihad, sexual abuse
of children, etc. I really don't know if that is really true.

I just checked out the site where I buy online books. I downloaded the Koran
for free. It may take me a while, but I am going to read it all.

Some of y'all are sneering at me and thinking I am a fool for doing this.
I think forming my own opinion is the way to go on this.

What are your thoughts?

[millergrovesue]

I think you are going to learn the truth about what is in the Koran. Good for you! Would love to hear your feedback as you go along.

[planosteve]

Your a better man than I. I'm not into mysticism and it would bore me to death. But, I'll be interested to hear what you learn.

[Red Oak]

Next you need to read the Haditha and the Suras.

[planosteve]

Next you need to read the Haditha and the Suras.

And the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

[grouchy]

Sue, red oak and planosteve ok to all of you.

[BigTex]

Did you get the King James version or the New Revised Standard version?

[ralph]

good job , I've never read it but I do follow the actions of the people that follow the writings of the Koran and other Islamic holy books plus sharia law . iran [shia] is a good place for me to watch the goings on of hardcore islamists as they practice their religion . I also keep track of 'isis' [sunni] controlled areas in the middle east !! Read the book , well I read excerpts and I am interested in their language and the definitions of some of their words and concepts like 'taqiya' , jizyah , dhimmis and dhiminitude which are all easily found on the internet !!

[planosteve]

good job , I've never read it but I do follow the actions of the people that follow the writings of the Koran and other Islamic holy books plus sharia law . iran [shia] is a good place for me to watch the goings on of hardcore islamists as they practice their religion . I also keep track of 'isis' [sunni] controlled areas in the middle east !! Read the book , well I read excerpts and I am interested in their language and the definitions of some of their words and concepts like 'taqiya' , jizyah , dhimmis and dhiminitude which are all easily found on the internet !!

Since I assume what you are reading is translated, how do you know you are getting a legitimate translation?

[ralph]

once agin , I mostly follow their ACTIONS Steve , actions speak louder than words in my opinion .

[planosteve]

once agin , I mostly follow their ACTIONS Steve , actions speak louder than words in my opinion .

What's the difference between a "hardcore" Islamist and a regular one?

[ralph]

no difference in my opinion as the moderates [regular] will be ruled over by the hardcore . See 'iran' [shia] and 'isis' [sunni] controlled parts of the middle east . The moderates [regular] probably shed a few tears and do a little begging as they are being executed !!

[Red Oak]

Grouchy be sure to burn a copy, to CD.

[millergrovesue]

Since I assume what you are reading is translated, how do you know you are getting a legitimate translation?

Same could be said, and is, about the Bible. King James is a classic example of politics shaping the wording of the Bible.

[grouchy]

Grouchy be sure to burn a copy, to CD.

Now that is funny! Love it.

[jellowrestling]

Next you need to read the Haditha and the Suras.

And the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

Are you suggesting that the Koran is an anti-Islamic hoax, designed to make the Muzzies look as evil as possible?

[BillB]

The Koran claims to be the direct, literal, word of God (Allah).
Do you believe it is a hoax?

[planosteve]

The Koran claims to be the direct, literal, word of God (Allah).
Do you believe it is a hoax?

Me? I have no idea. And could care less. As I said, I'm not into mysticism. I don't pay much attention to any of it.

[ralph]

seeing that 'islam' is the newest of the 3 religions and its only about 1400 years old I have often thought that it copies or plagiarizes the earlier Christian and Jewish writings to some extent . Reason for my thinking is that in the 'koran' it drops a lot of Judeo Christian names and concepts from the earlier 'J.C.' writings . I think that the 'koran' is a Fiction [or satans religious book] from the beginning and was written as a response of superiority over Jewish and Christian religion !! By the way , I am not very religious , just a nominal Christian from birth and this is just a comment !!

[ralph]

so yeah , if hoax and fiction are the same meaning then YES , I think that islam , the Koran and anything Islamic is a hoax !! Now where is my chainmail collar ??