Christian flag flying above USA flag at Baptist church
Christian flag flying above USA flag at Baptist church
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- Sangersteve
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Re: Christian flag flying above USA flag at Baptist church
Against the law. Go ahead and risk that tax free status.
It's a joke son,I say a joke
Re: Christian flag flying above USA flag at Baptist church
GOOD , see what happens next !!
Re: Christian flag flying above USA flag at Baptist church
I've never heard of the Christian Flag.
Where is that found in scripture?
I've never seen it.
Where is that found in scripture?
I've never seen it.
Re: Christian flag flying above USA flag at Baptist church
probably isn't an official Christian flag until it is made and accepted , maybe . There was no Gadsen flag until it was made and accepted by those that accepted it . ------- Course , I don't know !!
Re: Christian flag flying above USA flag at Baptist church
There is no such thing as 'the Christian' flag. For one reason there is no Christian clearing house of any kind
that would approve of such a thing.
Interesting though ... in that the Christian Flag is highly regarded by some Christians, it is of value only
to the extent that adherents are willing to put into it. Makes it about the same as the WW recruitment
posters that featured Uncle Sam (only the military, I am presuming, somewhere along the line, either
gave it a stamp of approval or let it slide).
This US Flag is the example, as far as I'm concerned, of a legal (?) and approved symbol.
But a thing is worth, however, much people are willing to pay for it. In this sense that would be an
emotional evaluation. And emotional evaluations can be suspect ... which is what we are experiencing
with the so-called Confederate flag. In the case of the 'Christian flag' the emotions are consistent with
and congruent with its actual value. The bars and stars, if we concede the national reaction, is
neither consistent with or congruent with the values, ideals and goals of the whole country.
Does not mean it's not valuable to some in the South. Does mean that it will never be accorded
anything like the US flag ... or the Christian flag either for that matter. Display it knowing that
many more people find it problematic than laudable.
Another thing: the US flag and the Confederate flag are honored by the service of those who
would give their lives for it. Nothing similar with the "Christian" flag.
that would approve of such a thing.
Interesting though ... in that the Christian Flag is highly regarded by some Christians, it is of value only
to the extent that adherents are willing to put into it. Makes it about the same as the WW recruitment
posters that featured Uncle Sam (only the military, I am presuming, somewhere along the line, either
gave it a stamp of approval or let it slide).
This US Flag is the example, as far as I'm concerned, of a legal (?) and approved symbol.
But a thing is worth, however, much people are willing to pay for it. In this sense that would be an
emotional evaluation. And emotional evaluations can be suspect ... which is what we are experiencing
with the so-called Confederate flag. In the case of the 'Christian flag' the emotions are consistent with
and congruent with its actual value. The bars and stars, if we concede the national reaction, is
neither consistent with or congruent with the values, ideals and goals of the whole country.
Does not mean it's not valuable to some in the South. Does mean that it will never be accorded
anything like the US flag ... or the Christian flag either for that matter. Display it knowing that
many more people find it problematic than laudable.
Another thing: the US flag and the Confederate flag are honored by the service of those who
would give their lives for it. Nothing similar with the "Christian" flag.
All Life is Feudal
Re: Christian flag flying above USA flag at Baptist church
Any so called Christian Flag is meaningless, unless someone can point to scripture where Christ authorized it.
Flying it over the US flag is silly. It would be like flying a Kleenex or a paper towel- silly and meaningless.
Flying it over the US flag is silly. It would be like flying a Kleenex or a paper towel- silly and meaningless.
Re: Christian flag flying above USA flag at Baptist church
I see what you are saying, but I strongly disagree.
When thousands, probably millions, of Christians think it's meaningful; then it's meaningful.
Just as when thousand believe the Stars and Bars is meaningful.
It is, however, wrong to fly it above the national flag. The Christian flag is put in the
honor spot in many Christian churches' sanctuaries. I don't like any flag in a
Christian sanctuary.
I don't have a major problem with that excepting that Christian sanctuaries are supposed
to treat all people who participate as Christian period -- so an Jewish Christian, an Iranian
Christian and an Indian Christian would absolutelyof the same value as the American
Christian and, thus, don't need national flags in the sanctuary. The Christ does not belong
to the US or anyone else.
When thousands, probably millions, of Christians think it's meaningful; then it's meaningful.
Just as when thousand believe the Stars and Bars is meaningful.
It is, however, wrong to fly it above the national flag. The Christian flag is put in the
honor spot in many Christian churches' sanctuaries. I don't like any flag in a
Christian sanctuary.
I don't have a major problem with that excepting that Christian sanctuaries are supposed
to treat all people who participate as Christian period -- so an Jewish Christian, an Iranian
Christian and an Indian Christian would absolutelyof the same value as the American
Christian and, thus, don't need national flags in the sanctuary. The Christ does not belong
to the US or anyone else.
All Life is Feudal
Re: Christian flag flying above USA flag at Baptist church
BillB wrote:I've never heard of the Christian Flag.
Where is that found in scripture?
I've never seen it.
Why does it have to be found in Scripture?
If you’re “woke”..you’re a loser.
Re: Christian flag flying above USA flag at Baptist church
seems to me that if a flag is made and is christened Christian and then accepted then its a Christian Flag . Course , maybe it needs FINAL 'gov' approval or mrobamas 'nod' of approval .
Re: Christian flag flying above USA flag at Baptist church
ralph wrote:seems to me that if a flag is made and is christened Christian and then accepted then its a Christian Flag . Course , maybe it needs FINAL 'gov' approval or mrobamas 'nod' of approval .
A Christian Flag would have to symbolize Christianity otherwise it would be meaningless.
Christianity is once and for all established and codified in scripture.
There is nothing there about a Christian flag.
Men can ordain and worship a tree stump and call it a Christian stump. That doesn't make it one. It makes the ones who believe in it, idiots.
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Duplicate post.
Re: Christian flag flying above USA flag at Baptist church
no argument from me . GAY christ1ons have a rainbow flag though !!
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I grew up in a church that displayed the US flag on one side and the Christian flag on the other side of the sanctuary, in Sunday School rooms, etc. It's been around for just about forever.
Working to love my fellow person regardless : >
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BillB wrote:ralph wrote:seems to me that if a flag is made and is christened Christian and then accepted then its a Christian Flag . Course , maybe it needs FINAL 'gov' approval or mrobamas 'nod' of approval .
A Christian Flag would have to symbolize Christianity otherwise it would be meaningless.
Christianity is once and for all established and codified in scripture.
There is nothing there about a Christian flag.
Men can ordain and worship a tree stump and call it a Christian stump. That doesn't make it one. It makes the ones who believe in it, idiots.
Men can ordain a tree stump?
What do you think your precious Scritpures are..simply writings by men.
If you’re “woke”..you’re a loser.
Re: Christian flag flying above USA flag at Baptist church
I want to balance this just a smidge.
There are many things in 'modern' Christianity that have no warrant in scripture.
Gold rings at marriages (unless it was a nose ring)
divorce (but I'm glad that has changed)
clergyman or woman at weddings
candles
marriages chosen by bride and/or groom
usury
lobster
nuclear physicists
organs
churches
And one could hardly say that, simply bec the bible doesn't mention it, a Christian flag
is forbidden. Millions of churches have representations of Jesus in two dimensions
as well as three. As long as a 'flag' has a cross or other Christian symbol, I it could
be called a Christian flag but IT COULD NOT be called the Christian flag.There just
ain't one.
I guess any one of the above could be debated, but the general thrust is right.
And, rather as GFB puts it, there wasn't even a Christian bible in the early part of
the Christian period. While, presumably, God could have given the earliest
Christians a complete bible, God's servants didn't get around to it until (oh, I
don't know) for centuries. And God's servants seem to have said just about
anything they wanted to. (They did have the Hebrew Scriptures of course.)
Therefore?
The so-called Christian Flag is a trifle compared with the arguments and quarrels we otherwise
have going.
There are many things in 'modern' Christianity that have no warrant in scripture.
Gold rings at marriages (unless it was a nose ring)
divorce (but I'm glad that has changed)
clergyman or woman at weddings
candles
marriages chosen by bride and/or groom
usury
lobster
nuclear physicists
organs
churches
And one could hardly say that, simply bec the bible doesn't mention it, a Christian flag
is forbidden. Millions of churches have representations of Jesus in two dimensions
as well as three. As long as a 'flag' has a cross or other Christian symbol, I it could
be called a Christian flag but IT COULD NOT be called the Christian flag.There just
ain't one.
I guess any one of the above could be debated, but the general thrust is right.
And, rather as GFB puts it, there wasn't even a Christian bible in the early part of
the Christian period. While, presumably, God could have given the earliest
Christians a complete bible, God's servants didn't get around to it until (oh, I
don't know) for centuries. And God's servants seem to have said just about
anything they wanted to. (They did have the Hebrew Scriptures of course.)
Therefore?
The so-called Christian Flag is a trifle compared with the arguments and quarrels we otherwise
have going.
All Life is Feudal
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Re: Christian flag flying above USA flag at Baptist church
Yep. Many many things about the current Christian churches were not created till centuries after Christ's death. Doesn't make them wrong or unacceptable to Christians.
When I told my sis that some folks here had never heard of the Christian Flag she said "Did they never go to Bible school?" Yes, a big to do was made about it in Bible school including the Pledge of Allegiance to the Christian Flag.
One of the greatest and oldest tenants of the Baptist faith (which the Southern Baptist Convention has dumped by the way) is the priesthood of the believer. The simple version is that each individual, through prayer and study of the Bible as well as other influences, works out their own salvation and beliefs. Additionally every church congregation is pretty much autonomous so creates its own statements of faith, chooses its own preachers, etc.
When I told my sis that some folks here had never heard of the Christian Flag she said "Did they never go to Bible school?" Yes, a big to do was made about it in Bible school including the Pledge of Allegiance to the Christian Flag.
One of the greatest and oldest tenants of the Baptist faith (which the Southern Baptist Convention has dumped by the way) is the priesthood of the believer. The simple version is that each individual, through prayer and study of the Bible as well as other influences, works out their own salvation and beliefs. Additionally every church congregation is pretty much autonomous so creates its own statements of faith, chooses its own preachers, etc.
Working to love my fellow person regardless : >
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No, never went to Bible School.
Catholics didn't study the Bible..not back then, anyhow.
Catholics didn't study the Bible..not back then, anyhow.
If you’re “woke”..you’re a loser.
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GFB wrote:No, never went to Bible School.
Catholics didn't study the Bible..not back then, anyhow.
Yeah, fortunately that has changed to some extent. I also remember the old supposed Catholic saying - something like - Give us the child for 7 years and we'll have them for life. I'm not sure that worked out too well for some people. I sure knew a bunch of serious conflicted former Catholics when I was a young woman.
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Re: Christian flag flying above USA flag at Baptist church
Sangersteve wrote:Against the law. Go ahead and risk that tax free status.
Um, I'm not sure about that. The Flag Code is law...it is part of the U S Code. But, I couldn't find anything in it regarding NGO Flags. So, if the Code is silent on it may not actually be illegal...wrong yes, but not illegal.
Let's just go ahead and do away with that tax-exempt status. There is no justification for it. Think of all the property and assets being sheltered from taxes and how much good that would do our economy. Why do some superstitions get more slack than others, do you think?
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