Alleged transcript of plane downing

[Bob Of Burleson]

REPORT:
SEPARATISTS DISCUSSED
SHOOTING DOWN
CIVILIAN AIRCRAFT IN EAST UKRAINE

The Kyiv Post

Igor Bezler: We have just shot down a plane. Group Minera. It fell down beyond Yenakievo (Donetsk Oblast).

Vasili Geranin: Pilots. Where are the pilots?

IB: Gone to search for and photograph the plane. Its smoking.

VG: How many minutes ago?

IB: About 30 minutes ago.

SBU comment: After examining the site of the plane the terrorists come to the conclusion that they have shot down a civilian plane. The next part of the conversation took place about 40 minutes later.

“Major”: These are Chernukhin folks who shot down the plane. From the Chernukhin check point. Those cossacks who are based in Chernukhino.

“Grek”: Yes, Major.

"Major": The plane fell apart in the air. In the area of Petropavlovskaya mine. The first “200” (code word for dead person). We have found the first “200”. A Civilian.

“Greek”: Well, what do you have there?

“Major”: In short, it was 100 percent a passenger (civilian) aircraft.

“Greek”: Are many people there?

“Major”: Holy sh__t! The debris fell right into the yards (of homes).

FULL TRANSCRIPT WITH VIDEO

[planosteve]

Obviously a false flag.

[GRANDPA]

Some are saying it was an assassination attempt against Putin.

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/20 ... 94596.html

I have no idea how credible this site is. I've never heard of it before.

[Bob Of Burleson]

Some are saying it was an assassination attempt against Putin.

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/20 ... 94596.html

I have no idea how credible this site is. I've never heard of it before.

Oh, VERY reliable. It's one of Plano's sources.

[planosteve]

Or you could use one of Bob's most reliable sources, The Kyiv Post.

[planosteve]

Unverified tape released by Kiev presented as ‘proof’ E. Ukraine militia downed MH17

The Western media has picked up the news, despite it being impossible to verify the authenticity of the leaked conversations.

Meanwhile, some alternative media outlets are already accusing Kiev authorities of cooking up a fake.

The commentators point out that the discussion between “Bes” and “Geranin” may well refer to the Ukrainian Su-25 jet, which militia members downed on June 16.

There are also doubts spoken out, that that the unnamed “militia member” from the third tape segment could distinguish “Malaysia Airlines” marking on the aircraft as it was turned into rubble by the crash and fell down in small pieces scattered around a large territory.

RT has managed to contact Evgeny Kruzhin, who is a medic in the militia group accused of bringing the plane down, through his LIveJournal page. He told RT that the fighters nicknamed Major and Grek really do exist, but claimed that they remained in the town of Enakievo when the jet crashed – while the second “conversation” on the tape says that the plane was “shot down from the Chernukhino checkpoint.” Chernukhino is a settlement located some 25 kilometers from Enakievo.

“Therefore, they have no connection to either the plane’s downing, or the examination of the crash site,” Kruzhin stressed.

http://rt.com/news/173964-ukraine-malay ... ted-calls/

[Red Oak]

Militia members were sophisticated enough to bring down a SU-25 Military Fighter but not sophisticated enough to bring down a 777 ?

[planosteve]

Militia members were sophisticated enough to bring down a SU-25 Military Fighter but not sophisticated enough to bring down a 777 ?

I expect one guy with a stinger could bring down a fighter if it was low, but not an airliner at 30,000 feet.

[planosteve]

MOSCOW, uly 20 /ITAR-TASS/. A tape posted by Ukrainian security services in the Internet and allegedly recording a talk between self-defense fighters about the destruction of a Malaysian airliner is a fake, experts said on Sunday.

A group of experts studied the tape and came to the conclusion that it was made up of numerous unrelated recordings.

“This audio recording is not an integral file and is made up of several fragments,” said Nikolai Popov, a reputable expert in sound and voice analysis.

Specifically, the first of the three audio fragments, in which Gorlovka self-defense militia commander Igor Bezler talks about a plane shot down by the fighters, does not say anything about the type of the plane, the expert said.

At the same time, the name of the town of Yenakiyevo is clearly heard in the tape. However, the town is located about 100 km (60 miles) from the settlement of Snezhnoye where the Malaysian Boeing-777 airliner crashed.

Bezler said the talk had really taken place but the he had talked about a Ukrainian attack aircraft shot down by the militia above Yenakiyevo a day before the Malaysian airliner crash.
The tape’s second fragment consists of three pieces but was presented as a single audio recording. However, a spectral and time analysis has showed that the dialog was cut into pieces and then assembled. Short pauses in the tape are very indicative: the audio file has preserved time marks which show that the dialog was assembled from various episodes, the expert said.

The tape’s linguistic analysis also shows that those who made the faked tape clearly didn’t have enough material and time, the expert said.

That is why, speech fragments can hardly correlate with each other in terms of their sense and the spectral picture of audio materials also differs, the expert said.

But the most indicative moment is that the audio tape clearly shows that it was created almost a day before the airliner crash, the expert said.

The Malaysia Airlines Boeing-777 passenger airliner on the flight from the Dutch city of Amsterdam to the Malaysian capital of Kuala Lumpur crashed in the area of hostilities between local militias and Ukrainian governmental troops in east Ukraine’s Donetsk region on Thursday, July 17. All 298 people aboard the airliner died in the air crash.

http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/741521